Do you support Donald J. Trump?

@helenS I think you mean his almost unconditional support for the destruction of Palestine, do you not?

@helenS Then you would be voting for those who wish to see Israel destroyed?

@TexChik The former president supported Israel too.

@helenS In words, but not so much in action. Many pro-Hamas groups thrived in his administration. Trump is routing them out and cutting off their funding.

@helenS I see TexChic is courageously charging in to be proudly wrong again. Pity I can't interact with her.

@LordShadowfire She's not wrong when it's about Israel and pro-Hamas activists in the US (and in Europe too, of course).

@helenS She actually is, though. Nobody is protesting on behalf of Hamas. That's where both of you are full of it. What we object to is the ethnic cleansing of the West Bank that's going on with the current president's blessing.

@LordShadowfire I have see pictures taken in Berlin where people frolicked in the streets, after the October pogrom. Same pictures as in Gaza.

@helenS I have seen pictures of schools and hospitals leveled by Israeli bombs, with the excuse that Hamas terrorists were hiding somewhere behind them. I've also seen the articles about Israeli troops shooting at Red Cross workers and other people trying to provide medical aid or food to civilians trapped in those areas.

Israel is not the good guy here.

@helenS says I really don't think so.

@helenS as much as you're trying to smear people who are against human rights violations, war crimes and genocide, it won't work.

Our society is based on Liberty, Equality and Justice for all.
No ethnicity is entitled to greater rights than another.

To sum up:

I CONDEMN Hamas AND the Israeli Government.
I STAND with civilian Jewish people and Palestinians.

@JonUK41
Cause that's not a common Antisemitic canard or stereotype /s.

@JonUK41 WOW, okay. Right back to the "Jews control the banks and the media" trope. I suppose you'd like to concentrate them in some kind of encampment?

@basilfawlty89 Why is that on its face antisemitic ? Would it be racist to say (for example) that "there are some prominent black Americans in music and sports" ? 🤔

@bijouxbroussard see Shadowfire's response.

Yes, you do get some Jewish people in finance and media,. You also get some Jewish people in construction and factory work. You need to look at the sample bias and then look at historical context.

The whole "Jews control finance, media and the world" is an old Antisemitic canard from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It was used both during the Holocaust and before that during Tsarist Pogroms.

As to sample bias - you wouldn't be impressed if someone said most African Americans are in sport and music implying some "natural affinity" anymore than I would be if someone said most Mexicans work in farm labour and construction.

Stereotypes, even positive ones, have negative effects.

@basilfawlty89 I was going to address that next. I've had arguments with white folks who refer to black people as "basketball Americans". It was absolutely meant in a derogatory fashion.

@basilfawlty89 I understand this, but what the poster actually said was
Who said, MOST ? He didn’t.
And yes, if someone said "MOST blacks" etc., no, I wouldn’t be impressed. But that wasn’t the example I used, either.

I know this history as well as you do—and I just got through with someone who crawled out from under a rock describing Los Angeles’ black mayor as a "DEI hire". So they’re not implying anything now, they’re outright saying it.
Donald Trump has made that okay.

@bijouxbroussard I'll grant you that.

But look at the context.
He's saying, he was saying that in reference for support for Israel by the US and wealthy and influence Jewish people to bolster his claim.

Jewish people also aren't a monolith.
Many Jewish people have condemned the Israeli governments.

@basilfawlty89 Yes, I know many. But what he was replying to was the obligation of the POTUS. Trump goes hard on supporting Israel the country, likely because of ivanka’s husband, and what he perceives he can get. (Remember when he actually scolded Jewish Democrats ? why was that okay to MAGAs, after they gave Biden such a hard time for saying to black MAGAS "…you ain’t black" ? Same message, just a different community.