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It seems like I’ve read some articles about why it makes sense for the working class to support Trump

And the only thing that really stuck with me is that the Left are a bunch of insufferable knowitalls. Did I miss anything?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
The working class doesn't all support Trump. A section of them do. Similar to Brexit in the UK.

Though this is a thing and a bad thing for the left.

The right (and this happens internationally) has been successful at re-framing class in cultural terms: as opposed to economic terms.

I see class in economic terms and will fight on that ground all day long but this guy is on to something in terms of perceptions:

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sree251 · 41-45, M
@Burnley123
I'm on the left. I am kind of from a working-class background (crossed with lower-middle). I am considered culturally middle-class because of my education. Neither proud nor ashamed of any of the above.

Why aren't you ashamed? Look at JD Vance. He is redneck stock. He can't be anything but redneck regardless of his education and political aspirations. It's the same deal with Kamala. One is either born great or one is not. On the other hand, Jesus was born great even though he was a carpenter's son. Like me, you are 45 and hanging out here with lowlives. I am ashamed, and so should you.

I am also fascinated by what other people think and why. Including people who are not like me.

So, are you fascinated with what I think?
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@Burnley123 It seems like a pretty large section of the working class that votes with the right.
Unionised workers generally don’t.
60% of the Teamsters rank and file now support Trump, that’s why they didn’t endorse Harris.
Non-white workers don’t.
Trump’s popularity is growing even with blacks and Hispanics.

I live in Jefferson City, Missouri, the state capital, population about 45,000. We’ve got some Democratic neighborhoods, but it’s still Trump Country. We haven’t elected a Democrat to a citywide office or the state legislature in at least twenty years. It’s to the point that Trump supporters generally feel safe that they can talk politics say at work and not offend anyone.

I read an article recently by Douglass MacKinnon predicting a Trump landslide because some polling firm went to a number of restaurants in Nevada and at each restaurant could never find more than one Harris supporter but found plenty of people who were enthusiastic about voting for Trump.

Idk I guess I probably just worry about politics too much because I’m bored with life and need something to get worked up about.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Theyitis
Idk I guess I probably just worry about politics too much because I’m bored with life and need something to get worked up about.

If Trump wasn't bored with life he wouldn't be running for President. There is nothing more exciting than stopping WW3.
Ynotisay · M
You didn't miss if you read those things on manipulative, lying, right wing propaganda "media" sites. Which I'm sure you did. It's what ignorant people are fed and what they believe.
How else do you get people to kiss the hand that beats them?
ESPECIALLY given the hard facts and data that shows that what you read to be the exact opposite of the truth.
Some allow themselves to be manipulated. I guess they like it. Maybe it's easier for them. If they don't have self-respect, and need to live with enemies to blame for their own shit, it makes sense they wouldn't take the extra step to get to the truth. Kind of sad and pitiful but what are you gonna' do?
Elessar · 26-30, M
There isn't a single entity you can properly define left. Only a conglomerate of disappointed single issue voters that are at each other's throats and won't work together while the two rightwings prosper.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Elessar
There isn't a single entity you can properly define left.

You can!

Though it would take all day to thrash out and nobody would completely agree. 🤣

You can talk about the left in broad terms though.
Vin53 · M
@Nimbus So you want to see violent crime sky rocket, the stock market crash, unemployment spike and the price of bread drop 12¢, got it.
The left hates the working class.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@Motzu Marx and Stalin were very different people. I admire Marx in some ways but not Stalin.
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@Motzu you wouldn't like Marxism. It's about human rights and government responsibilities, it's anti war and anti caste system. Where would the middle class be without a caste system? In a democracy,! Americans prevent that through NATO.
SW-User
Yes, you missed plenty, but I can't be bothered to go into the very many ways in which you are wrong.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
The pull of Trump to non-college white men is powerful indeed. In a recent poll, 60% of Teamsters support Trump. That matches non-college white men nationwide. Being in a union doesn't seem to matter. Trump will appoint anti-union men to the NLRB -- also, no matter. Biden stood on a picket line with the UAW. Didn't change anything.

Trump makes uneducated white men feel good. That's all that matters.
The Left became too woke, so I changed all my opinions about everything.
@sree251 Being woke means you're anti-fascist?
I guess that means I'm woke.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@BohemianBabe Do you know what being "woke" means? It's being aware that racism exists. Do you want to be known of as a racist?
@Tastyfrzz It would be my dream.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Point of order. No such article exists...😷
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