Happiness is a choice.

@SatyrService yes

@WaryWitchWandering thank you.
I do what I can

@SatyrService What’s so bad about being blamed? I love it. That tells me I can do something about it.

You know what doesn’t? People saying the things you are. People who tell me I have a right to victimhood because of outside circumstances. That I should be miserable because it’s justified? No one should have to live like that.

Tell me I’m far from suffering when I make the choice every single day to suffer on my own terms instead of letting the world make me.

@Reject
I am NOT talking about victim-hood culture. I am talking about persons who endure so much that happiness becomes a distant land, unreachable. the horrifically sick, those fleeing the threat of death, permanent starvation or poverty.
OBJECTIVELY real things, not the subjective position of this or [i]that aggrieved bunch,[/i] which is what I think you might be suggesting when you speak of victim-hood culture

[quote]I make the choice every single day to suffer on my own terms instead of letting the world make me.[/quote]
[b]I support this. you are correct to feel this and act on it, [i]I do the same
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yet i still have compassion for those who cannot escape their awful real world conditions, as compared to all the voices shouting how they are abused

@SatyrService A victim is defined as someone who was innocent and had to suffer anyways for something they couldn’t help. That includes objectively real things. This easily qualifies everyone you just said. The point I’m making is while you can’t help becoming a victim, you can then become a survivor or someone who overcame their situation no matter how bad it was. It’s not about your conditions, it’s what you make of them. Suggesting otherwise even if done so in a compassionate way is exactly what traps people in that mindset.

@Reject [quote]you can’t help becoming a victim, you can then become a survivor or someone who overcame their situation[/quote] this is largely True, and i think your statement is [i]Noble and should be embraced[/i] by those how have it i[i]n their power to do so[/i]

there are circumstances and conditions, [i]that cannot be resisted[/i]
a 7 year old orphan in Ukraine [i]CAN [/i]rise up eventually. but there is [i]no guarantee[/i]
a 70 year old grandfather in New Mexico, who can no longer operate the farm that keeps the family fed

End stage terminal cancer , that level of pain [i]Dis-minds[/i] the suffer rendering them without the reason we need to face our facts.
So do the Natural end of life, Old age and its expanding discomforts and ultimately death, often in great discomfort.

we must acknowledge there are[i] things some cannot contest,[/i] there is suffering that cannot be alleviated
and such person deserve our compassion, not our condemnation

[big]Nice to have a civil discussion. I relish the give and take of ideas[/big]

@SatyrService If that’s how you see things. If you truly believe that there are some things so beyond your power that you must suffer for them and you cannot resist or contest that, then you’re right. I can’t make you go against any personal truth you commit to, but that’s not the one I choose for myself. I believe the only thing I can control is myself. That’s my truth. It took a very long time and a lot of faith to find it. It’s what enabled me to actually choose happiness despite being diagnosed with clinical depression and institutionalized for it. Back then, I would have agreed with everything you’re saying, so I’m just happy I don’t now.

@SatyrService Agree. Sweeping statements with no knowledge of people's awful experiences are cruel and stupid. Just another idiot to be blocked, IMO.

@Fluffybull I’m cruel and stupid for talking about my perspective that helped me? Whew. If you find someone getting better to be that offensive, that says a lot.

@Reject sounds like success to me! you are to be congratulated.