controversial but genuine question

can you name even one truly unselfish reason for having a child? to wit:

- by the very nature of the beast, there is no childish input in the decision
- even at the highest levels of living, there will be major hard scrabble and worrisome moments as the child grows and dies
- many have children as accessories, caregivers, easers of loneliness, entertainment, or cleaners of the home
- the only even-close reason I can think of as roundabout unselfishness is to build a religious army of sorts, but that is mightyyy presumptuous
- how dare parents then say, "I BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS WORLD AND I CAN TAKE YOU OUT" or, "do you know how long i labored to have you"....

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plungesponge · 41-45, M

I had a comically narcissistic father and he actually said "Whatever issues you think you have with me, none of them matter. I'm sorry you got the impression I lied to you, I don't lie.
I have never lied since I was 17. The only thing that matters is I'm your father and you're my son and it's as simple as that". Talk about lifetime enslavement lol. He had no friends his whole life, nobody could put up with his stream of self serving lies, so he thought he could use that BS to lock me in as the only person who had to put up with him. fvck that, I went no contact on him.