controversial but genuine question

can you name even one truly unselfish reason for having a child? to wit:

- by the very nature of the beast, there is no childish input in the decision
- even at the highest levels of living, there will be major hard scrabble and worrisome moments as the child grows and dies
- many have children as accessories, caregivers, easers of loneliness, entertainment, or cleaners of the home
- the only even-close reason I can think of as roundabout unselfishness is to build a religious army of sorts, but that is mightyyy presumptuous
- how dare parents then say, "I BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS WORLD AND I CAN TAKE YOU OUT" or, "do you know how long i labored to have you"....

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Queendragonfly · 31-35, F

I can't, there's none. Everyone who claims it's selfless are not completely honest with themselves.

No child gets the question "Do you want to be born? And no child gets to pick their family.

The decision to have a child is made by a selfish act to fulfill / be happy / be completed in life. And what's worse is all too often, parents ignore that their child is their own person, their own individual, and only treat their child as a reflection of how the parents themselves want to be recieved.

That's not selfless. The most selfless thing for a parent is to support who the child is even if they're not as their parents.

foldedunfolding · 41-45, F

@Queendragonfly yep!! said better than i could myself! i think an act necessarily lacks selflessness if the person they are being "selfless" TOWARDS doesnt exist 🤣

well..i guess you can be selfless towards future folks by creating generational wealth, etc 🤔