controversial but genuine question

can you name even one truly unselfish reason for having a child? to wit:

- by the very nature of the beast, there is no childish input in the decision
- even at the highest levels of living, there will be major hard scrabble and worrisome moments as the child grows and dies
- many have children as accessories, caregivers, easers of loneliness, entertainment, or cleaners of the home
- the only even-close reason I can think of as roundabout unselfishness is to build a religious army of sorts, but that is mightyyy presumptuous
- how dare parents then say, "I BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS WORLD AND I CAN TAKE YOU OUT" or, "do you know how long i labored to have you"....

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Northwest · M

The continuation of our species.

"This is what my parents inflicted on me, and I did not inflict on anyone".

Engraved on the tombstone of an 11 century Syrian poet (ISIS blew it up).

foldedunfolding · 41-45, F

@Northwest but perpetuating such a horrid species is uncool in the extreme lol. and even if half the population didnt procreate, the world would at least be able to handle the few occupants it did have

Northwest · M

@foldedunfolding Who decides who gets to procreate? The elite? We're not all that bad, and perhaps, one of these days, our species can live at peace, perhaps on Mars, where Musk will be revered as a God.

foldedunfolding · 41-45, F

@Northwest oh now im just gonna off myself at THAT prospect ew