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controversial but genuine question

can you name even one truly unselfish reason for having a child? to wit:

- by the very nature of the beast, there is no childish input in the decision
- even at the highest levels of living, there will be major hard scrabble and worrisome moments as the child grows and dies
- many have children as accessories, caregivers, easers of loneliness, entertainment, or cleaners of the home
- the only even-close reason I can think of as roundabout unselfishness is to build a religious army of sorts, but that is mightyyy presumptuous
- how dare parents then say, "I BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS WORLD AND I CAN TAKE YOU OUT" or, "do you know how long i labored to have you"....
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originnone · 61-69, M
caregivers....that strikes a nerve. My kids wouldn't toss me a scrap of bread like Pietta did for Katniss.
foldedunfolding · 41-45, F
@originnone that's the thing tho..it is so presumptuous that you can bring a little pet into the world, forge them in your own image, then be upset if they dont want to caregive later..idk
originnone · 61-69, M
@foldedunfolding Yeah....I do get it....
foldedunfolding · 41-45, F
@originnone that being said..i wish they would give you care for whatever it is you are going through..you are one of the good ones 😪