Random
Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

Marx on the US

Karl Marx was not only a connoisseur of American politics, but also an ardent supporter of Abraham Lincoln and the Republican Party. Like thousands of Germans, by the way, the so-called Forty-Eighters - those "forty-eights" who fled to America after the failure of the German Revolution in 1848/49 and later, in the civil war, sided with the party for the liberation of slaves and its president.

"Work in white skin cannot emancipate itself where it is branded in black skin," Marx wrote to Lincoln.

Today that excitement would give way to horror. Because the party for the liberation of slaves, in which German socialists were once active, has long since become the party of the former slave owners, in which racists have also found a political home.

How would Karl Marx explain Donald Trump's victory? Marx would have looked at the economic substructure of society and tried to explain the actions of the actors, and here in particular the ruling class, the bourgeoisie, from their economic interests.

“Interest does not think, it calculates. The motives are his numbers”, wrote Marx as early as 1842 in the “Debates on the Law on theft of wood”.

As a critic of political economy, Marx may have first analyzed how the capitalist mode of production has changed in recent decades. For while certain basic elements - such as the drive for profit as the engine of the economy - define capitalism, there are nevertheless very different forms of capital accumulation nowadays.

As a historian and politician, Marx would have taken the next step and ruthlessly dissected the pitiful state of American democracy. He would have referred to the exuberant influence of big money, to which politics in Washington is increasingly subject, and to the associated erosion of democracy.
And Marx must have dealt intensively with the fact that both parties, Republicans and Democrats, primarily have the interests of the American bourgeoisie in mind. In the words of Gore Vidal:
“There is only one party in the United States, the ownership party. And it has two wings: republican and democratic.”
This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
As usual, Marx would have been only half right. MAGA has more to do with white grievance than economics. A survey of the 1/6 rioters shows that they're not economically stressed so much as racially offended; more of them come from counties that have seen a large influx of non-white people than ones whose standard of living has fallen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/politics/capitol-riot-study.html

I don't know if Marx would have been "horrified" at the GOP's shift from the anti-slavery party to the white nationalist party. Even back then, the Republicans were the party of big business and the Democrats were the party of the working man. The Democrats were split between a pro-slavery southern faction and an anti-slavery northern one, with the realignment starting in the 1960s where conservative southern Democrats are now Republicans. What would have puzzled Marx is the shift of low-income working class whites from the Democrats to the Republicans, a move against their own economic interests. But this is explained by the observation that economic issues take a back seat to racial ones.
@LeopoldBloom Personally, I'm a STEM guy and know little of Marxism, but professional historians I've talked to said Marx's diagnosis of 19th century capitalism was dead on target, but his prescription turned out to be dead wrong. So "half right" seems a great summary of Marx in general!
Gloomy · F
@ElwoodBlues To be fair his prescriptions are vague and would have needed more elaboration. His criticism of Capitalism is really spot on.
Spotpot · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom The result of the southern strategy
@ElwoodBlues If you go through his predictions in the Communist Manifesto, he's about half right. But he expected the communist revolution to start in an industrial country like England, in response to the atrocities he saw in front of him. He would have been shocked to find out that it started in an agrarian country like Russia. What he didn't predict were the limitations on laissez-faire capitalism imposed by the capitalists themselves, curbing the worst abuses to allow the system to continue.
@Spotpot Pretty much. The proof is that the South used to be a Democratic stronghold, and today it's a Republican one. The conservative southern Democrats became Republicans. They key word is "conservative." Conservatives started the KKK and their heirs are still here. They just switched parties.