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When are you guys going to leave America alone about her guns? When will some of you realize the bad guys will always possess them?

People are the problem! Get it?! It will be a bloody day when they try to confiscate our guns.
Torsten · 36-40, M Best Comment
its just a certain group of people who want to take rights away from others. Those people will never stop because they have nothing else going on in their sad lives

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I'm in the UK so I don't tell Americans what to do about their guns. It's not for me to decide. America is a democratic nation and you get to choose via democracy. If you want guns then have guns.

We have illegal guns here, obviously, and we do have some legal guns although those are mainly in the hands of farmers for killing invasive animal species or they are antiques in the hands of collectors. Sometimes I feel like having a gun here wouldn't be a bad thing, particularly considering all the budget cuts that the police have suffered and the likelihood that if you are attacked you will be very much in your own. Then I consider that if guns were legal then more of the bad guys would have them too, so it would not really make things safer. This is from the standpoint of a country that doesn't have legal gun ownership for the masses. America is obviously different.

You have legal gun ownership. To try and reverse that would be a herculean task that would probably result in carnage. It's not like you simply knock on millions of doors and they'll all give you the guns willingly and this is before you even get to the resource required to do the knocking. Of course, you could ask people to drop their guns off at local collection points but then you could equally ask people to put a pineapple up their butt and you might get a similar uptake.

I think that America has guns and will have guns and needs to learn to live with them. A real difficulty with guns is their portability and size. You can kill tens of people with a truck, as was seen in Nice (France) but it's harder to drive a truck into a school. Bombs are harder to make effectively and without ending up on the radar of the security services. Legal guns are ideally suited for mass killings in indoor environments. That's a problem to be considered. I agree with the point made by @Dainbramadge in his post, that putting these stories in the news actually helps perpetuate the problem. It raises awareness, perhaps, but it also feeds the copycat phenomenon and makes antiheroes of the perpetrators. It would likely be better if mass shootings were not given air time. Terrorists always want as much attention as possible in order to spread as much fear as possible. They want that infamy too.

Poor mental health is very often behind these shootings, that is undeniable. Often, after a shooting has occurred, you will hear people talk about how the shooter demonstrated strange behaviour. Spotting the early warning signs is clearly important. Equally important is proactive mental health care as opposed to the reactive care that so many people receive. It's amazing how often it is that people literally have to try and kill themselves or someone else before there will be any real intervention. Keeping guns of the hands of those people who demonstrate any kind of unstable or disturbingly antisocial behaviour is key. As is making sure that complicity, through intent or negligence, is heavily penalised. If you are parents whose child is able to access your guns and kill people with them then you need to be heavily punished for that. It needs to be known that you will be and known that you will never again be allowed to own guns.

Those are just some of my thoughts on the issue. Again, this isn't my issue or my country so I'm not telling anyone to do anything. It's for you guys to decide.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@wildbill83 Well stated.
@SW-User and we thank you!

[center] I'm in the UK so I don't tell Americans what to do about their guns. It's not for me to decide. America is a democratic nation and you get to choose via democracy. If you want guns then have guns.[/center]

Merci ami
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@SW-User [quote]Bombs are harder to make effectively and without ending up on the radar of the security services.[/quote]

actually, they're pretty easy to make; and crude explosives only require basic household chemicals and/or ingredients easily sourced from any hardware store

with a bit of time, patience, and basic chemistry knowledge, many of those same chemicals can be formulated into high explosives like RDX, PETN, nitrocellulose, etc.
XDHyperGirlXD1 · 31-35, F
Gun laws in Ireland are extremely low

It nearly impossible to own a gun here

But for gun owners they have to register the gun in 2 Houses no carry permit so your never allowed carry it on your person and it has to be locked in a safe or steal code box 99% of the time your only allowed use it in shooting ranges and hunting

The gun here are chipped too or police know where they are at all times so if you sneak it out or feel entitled to do what you want with it then you be arrested lol

Hunting shooting range locked box that all your allowed do lol
XDHyperGirlXD1 · 31-35, F
@pdockal we are both right in our points 🙂
pdockal · 56-60, M
XDHyperGirlXD1 · 31-35, F
@pdockal 🤗
Disarming law abiding citizens . Leaving them victims to criminals..
is the best way to lower violent crime..
or are you a gun clutching bible reading republican?
@NoGamesTolerated [quote]
Hearting posts does not make your concern any greater for persecutions of Christians around the world. [/quote]

What? I'm saying for you to do it! I make a ton of posts on persecuted Christians.

What makes my concern is informing myself about the situation and giving my money, I know hearting posts makes no difference but it makes us posters know it is encouraging other Christians like yourself.

[quote] more Christian [/quote]

Invalid word/s
@BritishFailedAesthetic I’m sorry. I don’t wish to continue this convo. Too much distention so I’m done. You don’t seem to follow me well. And yes I get what you’ve said every time. I simply don't share your thoughts. So please be a gentleman and take this somewhere else. I mean no harm or disrespect but we are on 2 whole different pages. Have a great day.
@NoGamesTolerated Fine, you too.
specman · 51-55, M
I am a firm believer that anyone that wants to put their life in someone else’s hands they have the right to not have a gun! Leave the rest of us that have a gun alone.

Mass shooters are not in their right mind if they were they wouldn’t be a mass shooter!
And Europe wonders about all your mass shootings.

It really made me think when I saw an armed police officer with an assault rifle in London "The average US citizen seriously has a right to buy that?"
@BritishFailedAesthetic You would do well to quit trying to criticize what you clearly don’t understand!
@NoGamesTolerated What? Gun violence is the same across any cultural context!

Guessing our friend didn't care about police accountability when George Floyd was essentially executed by police.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic the police didn't kill him, he killed himself; the police just put him out of his misery...
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
Absolutely right. Get rid of People.
American gun problem solved.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@KiwiBird

Seriously ?
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
Those gun grabbers can't see the forest for the trees.
A friendly reminder as to why the 2A was written:

pdockal · 56-60, M
Well said
We will always have naysayers and doubters becsuse most don't understand why we have them and why they are our protected rights to have them
@pdockal thank you
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
Oh .. how cool is this. I just wrote the solution to that problem in my last post.
I got a bit carried away and covered the fact that most mass shooters are using the wrong tool anyway. It kind of read like a mass shooter guide to most body count. LOL
But you hit the nail on the head it is people.
People are damned crazier on a level that I even could never reach and there are millions of them.
Baseball bats are bad... baseball bats can kill... ban baseball bats!!!
Great post. My guns have never hurt or killed anyone.
The founding fathers never wanted America to have to live under tyranny! And sadly the youth have been so brainwashed by our modern education system to want to give up all our freedoms to a dictatorship! Well I’m certain it won’t be easy for them to bring to fruition.
popmol · 22-25, M
guns are bad, but the problem isn't only guns, in other countries where guns are allowed it's not this kind of an issue because there less sociopaths, no lead in the water, way more mental health help, more government help.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
America is a dumb place.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@wildbill83 I think the dummies should leave.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@Bumbles like I said, then leave... 🤣
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@wildbill83 They should leave.

 
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