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inaccessible · 51-55, M
It doesn't matter who's right and who's wrong, it will end up like Educracy, the abortion wing will become extinct eventually.
ElwoodBlues · M
@inaccessible Sadly, Texas laws might make Texas mothers extinct even faster. Women in Texas experienced a 56% rise in maternal mortality when Texas' new abortion law went into effect prior to Dobbs.
The new Texas law, SB 8, allows MANY more people to sue a doctor who provides that kind of care. It created an "open season" on doctors. Almost any busybody can sue a doctor under SB 8.
And what it found was a 56% rise in maternal mortality in the state of Texas from the year 2019 to 2022. That’s notable because it’s compared to just an 11% rise in maternal mortality nationwide in the same time period. And the time period is important because 2019 is our last glimpse of life before the pandemic. We know that the entire country saw a maternal mortality spike during the pandemic.
But the thing that was really different here: Texas stood out in that it had SB 8. And we know SB 8 passed an entire year before Dobbs. That was the biggest difference between Texas and the other states that did not see such a major rise in maternal mortality.https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-rises-abortion-ban/
The new Texas law, SB 8, allows MANY more people to sue a doctor who provides that kind of care. It created an "open season" on doctors. Almost any busybody can sue a doctor under SB 8.
And what it found was a 56% rise in maternal mortality in the state of Texas from the year 2019 to 2022. That’s notable because it’s compared to just an 11% rise in maternal mortality nationwide in the same time period. And the time period is important because 2019 is our last glimpse of life before the pandemic. We know that the entire country saw a maternal mortality spike during the pandemic.
But the thing that was really different here: Texas stood out in that it had SB 8. And we know SB 8 passed an entire year before Dobbs. That was the biggest difference between Texas and the other states that did not see such a major rise in maternal mortality.
inaccessible · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues
That report is politicall,not scientific report, and sure as hell biased. A scientific report will cover all basic questions, so for example, the mention a 56% as if half the moms/babbies died, no, that's an increase that sums up to 10 cases only. 10 out of 100,000. The report is also missing how many lives were spared because of banning the abortion, i bet it's more than 10, so again, Educracy, your only condolence is that according to the film, the smart got exticnt and the stupids ruled the earth 😁
That report is politicall,not scientific report, and sure as hell biased. A scientific report will cover all basic questions, so for example, the mention a 56% as if half the moms/babbies died, no, that's an increase that sums up to 10 cases only. 10 out of 100,000. The report is also missing how many lives were spared because of banning the abortion, i bet it's more than 10, so again, Educracy, your only condolence is that according to the film, the smart got exticnt and the stupids ruled the earth 😁
ElwoodBlues · M
@inaccessible My link was to a news report, but it contains a link to the scientific article with the data crunching.
And you're right, one of the key questions is the effect of the anti-abortion laws. So I'll ask you: has the Dobbs decision lowered the abortion rate? Or is it just creating a nation of scofflaws??
This data suggests not, but I'd like to see what data you have.
https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortion-trends-before-and-after-dobbs/
And you're right, one of the key questions is the effect of the anti-abortion laws. So I'll ask you: has the Dobbs decision lowered the abortion rate? Or is it just creating a nation of scofflaws??
This data suggests not, but I'd like to see what data you have.
https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortion-trends-before-and-after-dobbs/