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pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
I live in Canada.. Welcome to gun control and guns are heavily controlled in Canada. There are over three million licensed holders of firearms in Canada, six hundred thousand of whom have additional licenses that allow them to possess handguns. to get those licenses applicants have to take a gun safety course, written and practical demonstration of the law, function and safe practices.. then upon receipt of the certified results students can apply to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police with the payment of fees for a license. The application included guarantors, includes the spouse's contact information and signature and it takes months to process this application.. Then if approved by the police after they do their work on your background and references and have spoken to your spouse you get a license..
There are two and only two approved uses for long guns in Canada - target / skeet shooting and hunting.. Hunting requires additional licenses and additional courses.. You may not use a hand gun for hunting in Canada.. If you are in the woods and a bear charges you, it is a rifle or bear spray, no hand guns..
Storage of guns in your home is heavily regulated.. Guns must be kept unloaded, disabled with trigger locks.. locked in a safe or secured to a wall with a lock if displayed. Ammunition must be kept in another room... Self defence with a gun is not a legal or practical option in Canada - the time it would take to get a gun operative from its legally mandated storage renders the issue impossible and this was by specific intent.. ten or more minutes and multiple movements are required to get ammunition, and get it into a functional firearm that has this many intended obstacles in front of it..
No municipality in Canada permits the discharge of a firearm.. This means that all gun clubs/ranges are in rural locations and to fire a gun at one of these facilities involves a road trip. Farmers are allowed to use rifles to protect their lives stock and for varmint control on their own property.. or to allow licensed shooters to come on their property to help them with this.
You need a license to purchase ammunition in Canada... no license, no sale.
The ONLY approved use for a handgun is target/range use. Further the storage and transportation of a handgun is subject to additional restrictions... It can only be transported unloaded, trigger locked, in a locked case... It can only be transported from your home to the range directly and via the most direct route... you can not transport it to any other place. Proposed laws will prevent the purchase or sale of a new or used handgun - a complete freeze on handguns...
This new proposed legislation is ridiculous and several steps too far for no good purpose or reason. Why? Licensed gun owners have been totally vetted by the RCMP... who issued them their licenses.. Gun ownership is a privilege not a right and no gun owner will put this privilege at risk.. they act responsibly and in strict accordance with the law. The only gun crime that takes place on the streets is by criminals who obtain guns and ammunition smuggled across the US Canadian border. This legislation will do nothing to eliminate or even reduce this traffic in smuggled guns.. Criminals will always be able to get hand guns and ammunition - they do not obey the law.
Ten percent of the population (who vote) are being victimized and scape goated by this additional legislation and that is more than enough to lose an election so come the next election this legislation will be reversed.. in the interim after it was proposed every new or used hand gun available in Canada was purchased as it was now or never for those licensed and the RCMP has been working OVERTIME to help their license holders to obtain registration to get their guns before the legislation is enacted.. The Police could not possibly be more helpful or accommodating...and they make a point of thanking license holders for being responsible gun owners. They have a cooperative and helpful relationship with the people they have granted licenses to. Hand gun prices have skyrocketed in Canada.
That is gun control in Canada.
There are two and only two approved uses for long guns in Canada - target / skeet shooting and hunting.. Hunting requires additional licenses and additional courses.. You may not use a hand gun for hunting in Canada.. If you are in the woods and a bear charges you, it is a rifle or bear spray, no hand guns..
Storage of guns in your home is heavily regulated.. Guns must be kept unloaded, disabled with trigger locks.. locked in a safe or secured to a wall with a lock if displayed. Ammunition must be kept in another room... Self defence with a gun is not a legal or practical option in Canada - the time it would take to get a gun operative from its legally mandated storage renders the issue impossible and this was by specific intent.. ten or more minutes and multiple movements are required to get ammunition, and get it into a functional firearm that has this many intended obstacles in front of it..
No municipality in Canada permits the discharge of a firearm.. This means that all gun clubs/ranges are in rural locations and to fire a gun at one of these facilities involves a road trip. Farmers are allowed to use rifles to protect their lives stock and for varmint control on their own property.. or to allow licensed shooters to come on their property to help them with this.
You need a license to purchase ammunition in Canada... no license, no sale.
The ONLY approved use for a handgun is target/range use. Further the storage and transportation of a handgun is subject to additional restrictions... It can only be transported unloaded, trigger locked, in a locked case... It can only be transported from your home to the range directly and via the most direct route... you can not transport it to any other place. Proposed laws will prevent the purchase or sale of a new or used handgun - a complete freeze on handguns...
This new proposed legislation is ridiculous and several steps too far for no good purpose or reason. Why? Licensed gun owners have been totally vetted by the RCMP... who issued them their licenses.. Gun ownership is a privilege not a right and no gun owner will put this privilege at risk.. they act responsibly and in strict accordance with the law. The only gun crime that takes place on the streets is by criminals who obtain guns and ammunition smuggled across the US Canadian border. This legislation will do nothing to eliminate or even reduce this traffic in smuggled guns.. Criminals will always be able to get hand guns and ammunition - they do not obey the law.
Ten percent of the population (who vote) are being victimized and scape goated by this additional legislation and that is more than enough to lose an election so come the next election this legislation will be reversed.. in the interim after it was proposed every new or used hand gun available in Canada was purchased as it was now or never for those licensed and the RCMP has been working OVERTIME to help their license holders to obtain registration to get their guns before the legislation is enacted.. The Police could not possibly be more helpful or accommodating...and they make a point of thanking license holders for being responsible gun owners. They have a cooperative and helpful relationship with the people they have granted licenses to. Hand gun prices have skyrocketed in Canada.
That is gun control in Canada.
fortycreek · M
@pdqsailor1 im am a Canadian gun owner and I have absolutely no issue with the level of gun control that have
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
Do you have an RPAL? I do... up until this legislation was introduced I had no intention of ever purchasing a hand gun. I had to reconsider my position and I purchased one ahead of the legislation being introduced.. I am FAR from the only one.. The RCMP tell me they have been working over time.. they could not have been nicer or more helpful.. After all they are dealing with people they issued licenses to..
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fortycreek · M
@pdqsailor1 no I don't but have a few buddies that do, it a lengthy procedure
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
@fortycreek the new laws are of no consequence to you but they are to your friends. Saying you have no issue with them is like saying that new regulations on space travel cause you no discomfort. There is an issue of morality involved in denying a licensed individual the ability to use the license they took a course for, passed and paid for.
@pdqsailor1 my response is not meant to anger or dispute as I have many Canadian friends and we have our discussions on this issue. But what I put up is a reminder that gun violence knows no border(s), and sadly in Canada with a small population compared to the U.S. I think you will see more and more gun violence. And it isn’t new to Canada. Perhaps it’s not widely reported and known here.[image deleted]
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
And the part no one is talking about is that ALL of these gun violence cases are being perpetrated by criminals who purchase guns and ammunition that were smuggled into Canada @soar2newhighs These laws will do exactly NOTHING to change this because criminals do not obey laws, only honest responsible citizens obey laws. So the honest responsible citizens get penalized for no positive effect or reason.
fortycreek · M
@pdqsailor1 im not understanding the relevance to space travel but 2 of my friends have started the process because of the new regulations, i just have no interest in having a hand gun
fortycreek · M
@soar2newhighs Canada's population is 10 times smaller than the US, yet our gun violence stats are less than Chicago alone
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
Perhaps but the focus should be only on the criminals, not on law abiding citizens. @fortycreek
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
@fortycreek neither did I right until it was about to be an impossibility. With one slash of a pen it could be enlarged to include long guns as well.
fortycreek · M
@pdqsailor1 i do agree with that statement, if my rather standard long guns were in question I would have a different opinion
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
One slash of the pen and it’s done. @fortycreek
fortycreek · M
@pdqsailor1 that is not likely to happen, that includes way more of the population, that is picking a different fight and in reality would mean banning
Wiseacre · F
We are still sane!@pdqsailor1
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
We have been sane for a very long time, this new legislation is scape goating and it is beyond unfair.. and the government will pay the price for victimizing people. This legislation will do NOTHING to curb criminal behaviour with smuggled guns and ammunition. When a liberal candidate comes to my door I will open my wallet and pull out my license and show it to the candidate... they will get the message that they will NOT be getting this households votes.. two days ago a criminal took a gun and fired a bullet at my friends sailboat while it was moored at a marina in Toronto and they hit his mast severely denting it. This legislation won't stop this behaviour.. @Wiseacre