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You are scream gun control

In light of everything that happened in New York and more importantly Texas I will propose a 4 way approach to this that will prevent and actually reduce casualties in these events that doesn’t involve the restriction of liberty.
1 make schools hard target! Utilizing combat veterans law enforcement and civilians each school has at least a 3-7 individual team armed with rifles and handguns on school grounds when students are present these individuals will be in high visibility uniform and heavily trained in tactics of threat termination.

2 is an over haul of the mental health system with better communication between providers and government prohibiting individuals who pose a threat to themselves or others. While providing better care and resources for research. Also a focus on affordable care for the individuals that need it.

3 changes in law enforcement 1. any chase should be diverted away from school zones. 2. The reversal of the Castle Rock decision and those that have followed stating that law enforcement has no duty to act or protect the public.

4. Giving all school staff the option to carry a firearm. Giving the same training as the the individuals in suggestion 1 all school staff has the opportunity to carry a hand gun on school grounds. If this option is taken a stipend for training additional training and ammunition must be provided as well as for risk assessment.

These are not feel good actions like gun these are hard proven actions that will reduce the numbers of repeating this again as well as having a better response saving lives.
Sharky86 · 36-40, M
5. Just copy civilized world...
@Sharky86 you want to ban guns though like other nations
Sharky86 · 36-40, M
@Stargazer89 Yes, nations that don't brag about freedom and stuff but they know what that really means, and where these pew pew tragedy are very rare.
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@Sharky86 when the Murican right wing spouts "liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty" they only mean liberty for them, not for others, and they aren't willing to acknowledge that nations with gun control and/or better social programs / networks / culture still have liberty ... it is a mindless drone cult
Elessar · 26-30, M
0. Just make guns inaccessible to imbeciles, like the rest of the world does.

Problem solved.
Graylight · 51-55, F
1. Kids shouldn't go to schools in bunkers. In states that struggle annually to get supplies to the teachers, how are we suddenly tactically fortifying all schools? Difficult to turn a non-air conditioned trailer into the Pentagon.

2. The US, at best, pays lip service to mental health. It's great fodder for daytime talk, but no one really wants to touch it. It's merely another deflection skeet.

3. You join the force. You find yourself inside fluid crisis scene and mass casualty incident. Then tell us how you direct the orchestra.

4. More gasoline doesn't put a fire out. More crushing pressure won't set a broken bone. More guns don't prevent gun deaths.

If they did, the NRA wouldn't have banned them from their "thought and prayers" rally in Houston.
Especially item #1. I've read a dozen different articles addressing this school's security measures and protocol, including security personnel onhand. Oddly, it's the details associated with "armed" security where these articles become vague and vary significantly.
TexChik · F
@PatKirby I hadnt heard how many rounds he took in the shield but I did hear his skull was grazed
@PatKirby just an opinion. The more I hear about this, the more I wonder.
TexChik · F
@PatKirby The head of the Texas State Police (Department of Public Safety or DPS) just made a press conference and in it said the Uvalde police acted inappropriately in sitting by and allowing the gunman to have free reign to kill those babies.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
School armies and arming staff and faculty will only result in more gun deaths. We need fewer guns, not more to stop making schools into killing zones.
romell · 51-55, M
@windinhishair ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTELY
Strictgram · 70-79, C
@windinhishair Typical naive, ignorant, leftist response. Trained, armed, good guys in schools will reduce or eliminate mass shootings.
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beckyromero · 36-40, F
[quote]Utilizing combat veterans law enforcement and civilians each school has at least a 3-7 individual team armed with rifles and handguns on school grounds when students are present[/quote]

Do you realize how many schools there are in America? Who is going to pay for that type of protection?

[quote]Giving all school staff the option to carry a firearm. Giving the same training as the the individuals in suggestion 1 all school staff has the opportunity to carry a hand gun on school grounds. If this option is taken a stipend for training additional training and ammunition must be provided as well as for risk assessment. [/quote]

Again, who will pay for this? How will will assure that such teachers will have the ability to use a fireman arm at a moment's notice yet keep them safely away from their own students?
VTDestiny · 22-25, M
(Make schools harder to target is a good idea, it's the utilization of guns that makes that particular method bad)

I can't help but notice that absolutely non of your ideas include anything that makes it harder or even better impossible for someone with plans to do this type of thing to get their hands on a fire arm.

Also as someone who went to school in 2018 when there where basically armed officers everywhere 1 and 4 make the school environment not only feel kind of threatening but also unsafe, uncomfortable, and make it a bit harder to learn. In practice it doesn't achieve the desired effect, it might deter shooters, but at the same time I can testify it essentially defeats the purpose of going to public school in the first place and you'd feel safer and likely learn more at home.

Also did I mention that 1 and 4 not only make it feel more dangerous but actually make it more dangerous. No guarantee that those weapons stay in the possession of those who are authorized to use them as well as no guarantee an innocent is not shot or worse killed as well as no guarantee that those guns are used properly.

You'd be better off keeping weapons off the school grounds. Can't hurt anyone if there's nothing to hurt them with. Better than making it easier to hurt it kill people.
Alfarrobas · 31-35, M
You could just see other countries with low to none schools mass shootings, or low to none mass shootings and try to find out what they are doing right.
If it works for them, maybe it will for you?
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
Right. Because is there anything more scary than a classroom without guns?
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@Harmonium1923 Classrooms where critical thinking is taught is scary, especially for the rich sociopaths who own and govern the US.

If people thought for themselves propaganda (((cough cough Fox "news" cough cough))) wouldn't be as effective.
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
Plan B: Do what the rest of the world does and make it difficult for demented serial killers to access firearms...
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Oklahoma made it legal for school employees to have guns and ammo on campuses . They have to take safety training etc and nobody but the administrators know who has them
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@cherokeepatti [quote]nobody but the administrators know who has them
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For the first few weeks perhaps.
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Warning:Enter school grounds without authorisation You Will Be Shot
romell · 51-55, M
Simple just ban guns n watch if it has desired effects
Paladin · 56-60, M
Looks like a good list that could have a positive impact. I hate the idea of having to turn our schools into armed encampments, but for the safety of the children, it may be needed. But than you have to wonder if the crazed gunmen will decide to choose other targets where people gather, such as playgrounds, churches, movie theaters, playgrounds, etc.
I agree with a lot of that but the second point. Affordable care how? Will it come from my taxes? That honestly sounds like socialized healthcare and if I wanted that I'd move to the UK
@Elessar this nation is going to die due to socialism-
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Stargazer89 Trump the socialist ruined if for good
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@Slade Absolutely maddening, isn't it? If you take a job in law enforcement, you know you there is a risk of being shot. Don't take the damn job if you aren't willing to do it. How can this piece of shit Lt justify the lack of action?
Slade · 56-60, M
@BizSuitStacy indeed!
Human1000 · 51-55, M
This "hard target" stuff is such transparent bullshit and the latest right wing attempt to pretend to care.
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Liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty liberty ...

It's only word you people even know.

You literally cannot wrap your minds around or speak anything else, which is why you always sound like a chorus of parrots.

And you always interpret it as a [i][u]one-way street[/u][/i].

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LordShadowfire · 100+, M
I don't like number four. It puts the responsibility on the shoulders of the overworked teaching staff. Somebody around here made it clear recently that most teachers don't want that.

 
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