Israel is an illegal illegitimate country that should not have it's own sovereign existence

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I wouldn't go that far.
The way it was created is far from ideal and definitely the state of Israel has deep issues, but I don't think Jewish people having a right to self determination is wrong.

And I could argue does any state really have a logical right to exist. In fact, if we're gonna point fingers, Turkey and Azerbaijan solely exist because of genocide and ethnic cleansing of their Armenian, Assyrian, Udi, Yazidi and Kurdish minorities.

butterflybaby75 · 46-50, F

@basilfawlty89 True just like many african nations

CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M

@basilfawlty89 I would go as far as to say that the United States of America should not exist.

froggtongue · M

@CorvusBlackthorne Seeing how the indigenous people of the North American continent wasn't opposed to outsiders living on the land, believing land wasn't something to be owned, I wouldn't totally agree with you there. I do think more should be done to allow sovereignty to the native people, or at least more support.

basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M

@froggtongue which indigenous people? We're not all a monolith you know? I'm can guarantee you, my ancestors the Nahua definitely weren't fond of outsiders taking our land, seeing as we had the Toltec, Tlaxcaltec and Aztec Empires. I think the Mayans feel similar.

froggtongue · M

@basilfawlty89 ah. Yes. As usual, a much more complex problem than i originally realized.

CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M

@froggtongue

I do think more should be done to allow sovereignty to the native people, or at least more support.

Given the fact that the land will never return to the people who formerly occupied it, this would be the next best thing.