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The Best America can Hope for

The best thing we as the American Public, Taxpayers, and Consumers can do for ourselves as we look to 2023 figure things out is to get ourselves prepared for what we know is on the horizon. We're definitely on the knife's edge of Decline both Foreign and Domestic, the point is to mitigate whatever the damage that'll come with that.

• We cannot expect Government to solve the very underlying problems that it created to begin with. We certainly cannot expect Government to make anyone whole when the same US Government cannot even balance its own checkbook or secure its own Borders. There's hard work that's going to have to be done to get the United States and its Citizenry out of the Economic and Financial cesspool that's come about. The manufactured Coronavirus Pandemic, the 2020 Roll of the Dice (aka Election), The FTX Scandal, and subsequent Recession has reminded Taxpayers of this fact. There aren't going to be anymore Bailouts from the Government, We The People have to roll up our sleeves and bail ourselves out by doing things the Old Fashioned way and hard work.

• We need truely healthy Free Market Economic and Monetary Policy so American Taxpayers and Consumers can be able to take full advantage of the benefits and keep the Fruits of their own Labor, also able to grow and keep their Wealth.

• We need Foreign Affairs based on what the Founders understood to begin with; Trade, Commerce, and Honest Friendship with other Countries but entangling Alliances with none. A Foreign Policy that Talks, Negotiates with, Trades with, has Cultural exchanges with. We never use Economic Warfare or any Warfare against any Country without a Constitutional Declaration of War from The US Congress first! We treat other Countries the way we ourselves want to be treated. You can't bark about Human Rights when you don't practice it yourself.

Seasons Greetings to all...
• Most importantly, we must have a Limited Constitutional Government that does away with the so called Nanny State. The less Government we have, the more Freedom the People have. The Government that governs least governs best...

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redredred · M

You’re right but too many Americans have learned to look at the government as a sugar daddy.

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Broache73 · 46-50, F

@redredred
Well, I certainly agree with you! That's what dialogue and discussion is about, we're not and we don't have to agree on everything but at the very least talk about what we can do so that 2023 can be the start of a Sea Change, so the American Public, Taxpayers, and Consumers get their Freedoms, Liberty, Peace, and most of all their Prosperity back. Thats what I want!

MethDozer · M

@redredred If the government is a "sugar daddy" then he is the scrubbiest and stingiest sugar daddy ever.

LordShadowfire · M

@redredred So why don't you show us how it's done, then? Build your own city, without using any tax money, generate your own electricity, pump your own water, and everything.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@LordShadowfire The US is kicking Russia's ass so the propagandists have attack America and stir-up the dummies.

redredred · M

@LordShadowfire Did I say no taxes? Did I say no government? You see the world as a choice between drowning or dying of thirst. How about small, limited government? One that collects user fees, small tariffs and small taxes. One that doesn’t try to be everything to everyone. One that isn’t so big it’s the major employer in some counties. How many laws, costly programs and intrusions and waste do you need to be satisfied?

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@redredred[quote]Did I say no taxes? Did I say no government? You see the world as a choice between drowning or dying of thirst. How about small, limited government? One that collects user fees, small tariffs and small taxes. One that doesn’t try to be everything to everyone. One that isn’t so big it’s the major employer in some counties. How many laws, costly programs and intrusions and waste do you need to be satisfied? [/quote]

So, you want a government like Somalia's, Chad's or El Salvador's. Just say it.

redredred · M

@Diotrephes No, I want a government like Madison’s, Jefferson’s or Franklin’s

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@redredred America is classified as the world's sole super-power at this time. Do you want to strip it of that title and turn it into a has-been? In case you are unaware, modern military weapons cost a lot of money. The national infrastructure needs updating. Do you want it to decline even more? And besides, someone has to buy toilet paper for the Congress Critters so why not you?

LordShadowfire · M

@redredred I'll say it again. Show us how it's done. Build a city with no help from the government, pay for the infrastructure yourself, build your own power stations and water processing plants, and run everything. If you can't do that, then you still need to rely on the government.

redredred · M

@LordShadowfire Again, I never said no government I just want the government the founders planned via the constitution AS AMENDED. Is that somehow radical or confusing for you?

Up until 1915, this country had roads, schools, hospitals, cities, railroads, seaports, policemen, firemen and one of the worlds strongest militaries.

Oh, and no income tax.

MethDozer · M

@redredredI doubt the original Founders believed in a static government or thought that they devised a perfect eternal plan.

In fact I know they didn't.

LordShadowfire · M

@redredred The founders had in mind a country in which only landed white men would be allowed to vote. Do you want to go back to that as well? While we're at it, let's repeal the 13th amendment, since you want to go back to what the founders originally intended.

redredred · M

@LordShadowfire Did you miss the part I capitalized, “AS AMENDED”?

LordShadowfire · M

@redredred No, I chose to ignore that, because you're crying about things that have been added to the law of the land since the founders died, like income tax, which was established in the 16th amendment. So which is it, Sparky?

redredred · M

@LordShadowfire I was merely pointing out that the income tax is unnecessary. You seem to need a lot explained to you.

MethDozer · M

@redredred I mean yeah, a tax based on commercial land use,wealth extraction, and resource extraction is better but I doubt you'll be having that as well.

LordShadowfire · M

@redredred I was merely pointing out that the federal income tax was introduced in the 16th amendment. But you seem to think some amendments are more important than others. And that contradicts your earlier statement. So which way do you want it?

redredred · M

@LordShadowfire Prohibition was introduced by the 18th amendment and is still part of the Constitution. Are you claiming that amendment is just as important as the 1st or the 5th? Does your thinking allow for a reasonable person to stack rank amendments in importance as they see fit? The 16th, like the 18th is a serious intrusion into personal freedom.

MethDozer · M

@redredred You sound like a child throwing a temper tantrum .

MethDozer · M

@redredred No, he is claming they are just all as valid because that's how the mechanisms enshrined by the Founding Fathers works. Comparing a the 16th ammendment and the 18th ammendment as on the same level is a fallacy since one of them has been over ruled by a later ammendment. That's how it works. Derp!

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@redredred You're slipping. You may want to review American history = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

LordShadowfire · M

@redredred [quote]Prohibition was introduced by the 18th amendment and is still part of the Constitution. Are you claiming that amendment is just as important as the 1st or the 5th? Does your thinking allow for a reasonable person to stack rank amendments in importance as they see fit? The 16th, like the 18th is a serious intrusion into personal freedom.[/quote]
So you don't actually support the Constitution AS AMENDED. You only support certain amendments.

MethDozer · M

@LordShadowfire He's under the delusion everything was perfected for time forever thereafter by 1800.

redredred · M

@LordShadowfire I said I would happily live under the constitution as amended. I never said every amendment was flawless and I do have some I believe are more reasonable than others.

What I think is intolerable is the administrative state that has unconstitutionally inflicted regulations (with the force of law) that never saw legislative debate. Nothing in the constitution gives the legislature the right to delegate law making to an unelected body. I also find intolerable the IRS’s position that a tax payer must prove himself innocent against a tax charge. How is it we need 87,000 IRS agents but no new border agents?

Does all that the government does meet with your approval? Does none of this bother you?

We have these abuses because the government is too large, too intrusive and too corrupt. No government this large can be effective, efficient, unintrusive and free of corruption.

MethDozer · M

@redredred We have these problems because the government is too capitalist.

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