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The Boots theory of socio-economic unfairness

A decent pair of boots costs £100. An inferior pair costs £50.

The man who can afford the £100 pair has less need of them than the man who can only afford the £50 pair (he has a white collar job and his own private transport). They last the wealthier man a lifetime. The poorer man has to replace his inferior boots three times in his lifetime, meaning that an economically disadvantaged person has paid twice as much for the same level of utility.

This is an inefficient distribution of goods by the market, which impacts negatively on a society's economic productivity. How to overcome this? Price control of essential goods? Redistribution of wealth through tax credits or similar? State control of boot production?
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Price control of essential goods

On essential foods. Also utilities like energy and water.


Redistribution of wealth through tax credits or similar

You bet!

State control of boot production

Definitely not!
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@BritishFailedAesthetic It raises all manner of considerations. I learned it from a neo-liberal professor who admitted that it seriously tested the foundations of his preferred economic hypotheses 💷
@SunshineGirl I just get nervous of state control outside of housing, utilities, wages and public transport.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Doesn't have to be state control, just a state alternative.
@GeniUs I'm all for state intervention on the issues I mentioned, just not in many other areas.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic this is my solution to companies that avoid paying their taxes, set up a state company producing/offering the same services and eat into the profits of those who don't want to play by a reasonable set of rules.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@BritishFailedAesthetic As a student of liberal economics I am naturally averse to state intervention. As a student of history who has witnessed abject failure in most areas of private economic enterprise since 2007-8, I find it difficult to envisage any serious alternative.
@SunshineGirl It's just the fact history has shown what happens with state control.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic and yet the state has managed to control public services, legal systems, military, schooling, health services, etc effectively for years. These are being currently eroded by poor management and outsourcing much of which appears to be tended out unscrupulously.
@GeniUs You are giving examples of things that have always been run by the state, I am reffering to private businesses.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic If the things I suggest can be run well, why not services considered the preserve of the private sector? I'm not saying take total control but offer a functional alternative, like comparing the NHS (UK) to the private medical treatment also available in the UK.
@GeniUs The long list of Countries wrecked by state control- Cuba, Venezuela, the former USSR, North Korea, etc are enough to make me firm in my view.

The Government should intervene in private businesses for issues such as a higher minimum wage, etc however.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic All those countries have been/are run by brutal dictators, as long as there is the power to remove the man at the top it should work.
@GeniUs There are plenty of Countries with this system that have failed, I'm sure, not an experiment I want to try!

There is no incentive for government to provide efficient business and they will no doubt misallocate the resources.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic The incentives are that:

It offers a more cost effective choice for the people making them happier.
Profits are reinvested into public services, keeping taxes lower.
The businesses will not avoid task as much of big business already does.
Resources are already poorly allocated to private sector businesses, boosting their profits.
Resources should not be badly allocated to public sector, good management overseen by review boards should keep people in line. (Not an exhaustive list just off the top of my head).
And of course the most important point for all forms of democratic government happy population gets you back in power.
goodlil666 · 51-55, M
@GeniUs you obviously do not live in the USA. Because about everything you listed is in shambles or out of control. Public services are a joke and unattainable for many who need them, public education ?? In America is probably one of the lowest ranked in the developed world. Health care??? We won't even go there. Other than to say pathetic and embarrassing. And how the people we owe the most to, our veterans , are treated is shameful . The court and legal systems??? Where to begin??

I sure as hell don't have the answers but America is in serious trouble on all fronts and needs some serious changes .
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@goodlil666 I do not live in the US but other countries have all these things and there doesn't seem to be serious problems with them, so where does that leave us?
goodlil666 · 51-55, M
@GeniUs It doesn't leave us anywhere other than different life experiences. It's awesome that you live in a country where they have there sh* t together, I envy you. My I ask what country that is because we could sure use a lot of improvement ? I would have been shocked if you were an American with that high of an opinion of our governmental programs. LOL
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@goodlil666 I live in the UK, it just takes time for what happens in the US to filter over here for example we were agog at lawyers suing people for their clients stupidity for a good 20 years and then it arrived here. Having said that Socialist principles have been well founded here since 1945 and a lot of people want it defending.