You are paid what you are worth, (most of the time.)

Let me count the ways:
1. You are NOT entitled to a job. You have to EARN the job. That means a job has to be open, you have to have the skills to perform that job and you have to be the best candidate for that job.
2. You are NOT entitled to that bullshit "living wage" which only exists in unicorn dwelling unemployed diploma mill grads. You live on what you make. If you want more, you have to work harder and smarter for more.
3. You are NOT entitled to make money based on how hard you work. You could slave in the sun, day after day, making mud pies. You wouldn't be worth a cent. PERIOD.
4. Your pay is based on you reaching a VOLUNTARY agreement with an employer. He wants you to work for free, or a dollar a day. You want to work for $100 a minute, with six months vacation and five Rolls Royces for a car allowance. Your pay is where you and the employer meet somewhere in the middle.
5. The best example of this in the real world is a hospital. A heart surgeon makes more money than the janitor. That's because the heart surgeon's skill is more valuable than that of a janitor.
6. The ONLY time you are paid more than you are worth is a situation created by minimum wage. (Or if you are on WELFARE.) If you are a total bozo, the state has mandated that you not be paid what you are worth, if it is a penny an hour, but rather a minimum amount. Of course, those who are REALLY stupid and incompetent are never hired if their skills are worth less than the minimum wage.

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Richard65 · M

Nobody is saying a janitor should earn the same pay as a heart surgeon. Just that a janitor should at least earn enough to live on without hardship. Your entire post is just a ludicrous sweeping generalisation.

Reason10 · 61-69, M

@Richard65 [quote]Nobody is saying a janitor should earn the same pay as a heart surgeon. Just that a janitor should at least earn enough to live on without hardship. Your entire post is just a ludicrous sweeping generalisation[/quote]

Excuse me, but you're trying to change the subject. This thread isn't about what someone SHOULD get paid in order to live a life of luxury. This thread is about WORTH.

A heart surgeon EARNS more than a janitor.
As far as living a life without hardship, I guess you believe in unicorns, too. ALL life is hardship, sooner or later.
The first post is just REALITY, and apparently it's for people with an education.

Richard65 · M

@Reason10 who said anything about a life of luxury? I said the janitor should be able to live a life without hardship. That's not luxury, it means a regular life where they can pay the bills and have enough left for some kind of enjoyment. Clearly you're so filled with anger and frustration that you think a working stiff should just slog in the muck for pennies like some medieval peasant. The inside of your head must be a really vile, nasty, negative place.

sladejr · 56-60, M

@Richard65

[quote]you think a working stiff should just slog in the muck for pennies like some medieval peasant[/quote]

🤡 to the end!

Richard65 · M

@sladejr you're a Trumpster Republican, so it's no surprise that you think working stiffs should slog in the muck for pennies. Thanks for showing us all what a fabulous human being you are.

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Richard65 · M

@sladejr lol, we're declining, so that must mean the USA under the Dems is progressing upwards and onwards terrifically! Good of you to admit it 👍

BohemianBoo · M

@Reason10 [quote]This thread is about WORTH.[/quote]

If it's about worth, then how come the "essential workers" who needed to work through the pandemic were among the lowest paid workers in the country?

Reason10 · 61-69, M

@BohemianBoo @BohemianBoo The answer is they WEREN'T essential enough. Value of work is ENTIRELY market based. A person earns ONLY what someone or some entity is willing to PAY. Period. End of discussion.

And during the pandemic, the LEECHES on society (the Nazi Pelosi Democrats) got richer and richer.
It's was those EARNING a living who got knocked down by the overreaction and shut down of the economy.

BohemianBoo · M

@Reason10 [quote]he answer is they WEREN'T essential enough. Value of work is ENTIRELY market based. A person earns ONLY what someone or some entity is willing to PAY. Period. End of discussion.[/quote]

Then that's a really stupid system. A person's value of work should be based on how much it benefits society. Actors are important, but people who make food are more important. If people are willing to pay actors more under Capitalism, then we should ditch Capitalism.

[quote]And during the pandemic, the LEECHES on society (the Nazi Pelosi Democrats) got richer and richer.[/quote]

No shit. Because our system doesn't reward hard work or important work. Our system rewards people who are born into wealth.

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Neman1622 · 41-45, M

@sladejr I've tried debating these communists. They are totally indoctrinated already. It's very saddening for the future of our country.

Perfect logic has no impact on their soft minds.

Some want to claim they value human life. Look at how much Putin values human life, yet in reality, he is their hero, even if they don't realize it.

sladejr · 56-60, M

@Neman1622

Yes. Hopefully they all end up in the utopias they so adore. Be absolute poetic justice!

Neman1622 · 41-45, M

@sladejr the gulags are coming...

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BohemianBoo · M

@Neman1622 Better vote for Biden to stop them.

PleasurePunch · 100+

@Richard65 Sentiments like this show lots of resentment. But he knows everything. Must be he's still hiding something, like why he's MAD AT HIS OWN FATE.

and now we don't care.