Politics & News > Politics

Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

You are paid what you are worth, (most of the time.)

Let me count the ways:
1. You are NOT entitled to a job. You have to EARN the job. That means a job has to be open, you have to have the skills to perform that job and you have to be the best candidate for that job.
2. You are NOT entitled to that bullshit "living wage" which only exists in unicorn dwelling unemployed diploma mill grads. You live on what you make. If you want more, you have to work harder and smarter for more.
3. You are NOT entitled to make money based on how hard you work. You could slave in the sun, day after day, making mud pies. You wouldn't be worth a cent. PERIOD.
4. Your pay is based on you reaching a VOLUNTARY agreement with an employer. He wants you to work for free, or a dollar a day. You want to work for $100 a minute, with six months vacation and five Rolls Royces for a car allowance. Your pay is where you and the employer meet somewhere in the middle.
5. The best example of this in the real world is a hospital. A heart surgeon makes more money than the janitor. That's because the heart surgeon's skill is more valuable than that of a janitor.
6. The ONLY time you are paid more than you are worth is a situation created by minimum wage. (Or if you are on WELFARE.) If you are a total bozo, the state has mandated that you not be paid what you are worth, if it is a penny an hour, but rather a minimum amount. Of course, those who are REALLY stupid and incompetent are never hired if their skills are worth less than the minimum wage.

This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »

Richard65 · M

Nobody is saying a janitor should earn the same pay as a heart surgeon. Just that a janitor should at least earn enough to live on without hardship. Your entire post is just a ludicrous sweeping generalisation.

1-25 of 28

Reason10 · 70-79, M

@Richard65

Excuse me, but you're trying to change the subject. This thread isn't about what someone SHOULD get paid in order to live a life of luxury. This thread is about WORTH.

A heart surgeon EARNS more than a janitor.
As far as living a life without hardship, I guess you believe in unicorns, too. ALL life is hardship, sooner or later.
The first post is just REALITY, and apparently it's for people with an education.

Richard65 · M

@Reason10 who said anything about a life of luxury? I said the janitor should be able to live a life without hardship. That's not luxury, it means a regular life where they can pay the bills and have enough left for some kind of enjoyment. Clearly you're so filled with anger and frustration that you think a working stiff should just slog in the muck for pennies like some medieval peasant. The inside of your head must be a really vile, nasty, negative place.

This comment is hidden. Show Comment

Richard65 · M

@sladejr you're a Trumpster Republican, so it's no surprise that you think working stiffs should slog in the muck for pennies. Thanks for showing us all what a fabulous human being you are.

This comment is hidden. Show Comment

Richard65 · M

@sladejr lol, we're declining, so that must mean the USA under the Dems is progressing upwards and onwards terrifically! Good of you to admit it 👍

BohemianBabe · M

@Reason10

This thread is about WORTH.

If it's about worth, then how come the "essential workers" who needed to work through the pandemic were among the lowest paid workers in the country?

Reason10 · 70-79, M

@BohemianBabe @BohemianBabe The answer is they WEREN'T essential enough. Value of work is ENTIRELY market based. A person earns ONLY what someone or some entity is willing to PAY. Period. End of discussion.

And during the pandemic, the LEECHES on society (the Nazi Pelosi Democrats) got richer and richer.
It's was those EARNING a living who got knocked down by the overreaction and shut down of the economy.

BohemianBabe · M

@Reason10

he answer is they WEREN'T essential enough. Value of work is ENTIRELY market based. A person earns ONLY what someone or some entity is willing to PAY. Period. End of discussion.

Then that's a really stupid system. A person's value of work should be based on how much it benefits society. Actors are important, but people who make food are more important. If people are willing to pay actors more under Capitalism, then we should ditch Capitalism.

And during the pandemic, the LEECHES on society (the Nazi Pelosi Democrats) got richer and richer.

No shit. Because our system doesn't reward hard work or important work. Our system rewards people who are born into wealth.

This comment is hidden. Show Comment

Neman1622 · 46-50, M

@sladejr I've tried debating these communists. They are totally indoctrinated already. It's very saddening for the future of our country.

Perfect logic has no impact on their soft minds.

Some want to claim they value human life. Look at how much Putin values human life, yet in reality, he is their hero, even if they don't realize it.

This comment is hidden. Show Comment

Neman1622 · 46-50, M

@sladejr the gulags are coming...

This comment is hidden. Show Comment

BohemianBabe · M

@Neman1622 Better vote for Biden to stop them.

Shadyglow · F

@Richard65 Sentiments like this show lots of resentment. But he knows everything. Must be he's still hiding something, like why he's MAD AT HIS OWN FATE.

and now we don't care.

Spoiledbrat · F

Under Biden everything goes up to compensate the higher wages and I don't think people who make food are important or that needed. I rarely ever eat out. And it doesn't take skill to make food. Anyone can do it. Not everyone can act. Actors make more than food workers because they appeal to a larger crowd hence commercials. @BohemianBabe

BohemianBabe · M

@Spoiledbrat That's why Harris also wants price control laws. Also, prices don't just go up when wages go up. Prices go up whenever corporations think they can get away with it. A lot of corporations raised their prices during covid under the guise of the pandemic. They didn't have to, but they figured they could get away with it.
Just another reason to vote for Harris.

Spoiledbrat · F

@BohemianBabe Prices also go up when wages go up. That's why a lot of people are against mw increases. At least 'I' dread it because our wages don't go up immediately. And my husband had to learn to do what he does. And I worked hard to get a degree to be able to earn more and get a more rewarding job.

Spoiledbrat · F

If they can just price cuts, why haven't they? Because they want to stay in power ? @BohemianBabe

BohemianBabe · M

@Spoiledbrat Because they want more money. Without government regulation, corporations can do whatever they want.

Spoiledbrat · F

@BohemianBabe The one thing she wants to do that I agree with is take away the "degree" that's necessary to get a government job.

BohemianBabe · M

@Spoiledbrat But you don't agree with stopping corporations from price-gouging?

Spoiledbrat · F

@BohemianBabe Yes I do. But why hasn't she. Or Biden.

BohemianBabe · M

@Spoiledbrat Because the vice president doesn't make policy. For the most part, the president doesn't either, rather they just sign or veto bills. If Harris was president, she'd have to ask the Democrats to first write a bill to stop price-gouging, then it would have to get through congress, which might not even happen. Only then could she sign it into law.

As for why Biden didn't do this, probably because he's half-dead.

1-25 of 28