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What do you know about communism?

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gol979 · 41-45, M
A bloated government. Statism on steroids.
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gol979 · 41-45, M
@Emosaur cool. No taxes, no voting, respect of the individual, no central bank, minimal/no centralisation, etc etc and small communities being left to their own devices then?

I doubt it very much because communism at its core is about centralisation. In the end communism cannot abide the above sentiments.
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gol979 · 41-45, M
@Emosaur exactly my point. There cant be that contradiction......hence the bloated government will be a direct consequence of communism. An ideology that tries to wield that amount of power has to have an uni-party/singular belief ie a government and voters or believers......anything out of the confines of said ideology will be attacked.
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gol979 · 41-45, M
@Emosaur thats marketing. As you just stated, you cannot have communism without centralisation......and its in the manifesto. They love a central bank and are against a free market. You will have to have centralisation to control the "market" and its myriad of components. Communism = bloated government and all the ills that come with it
Gloomy · F
@gol979 The manifesto also talks about Socialism and its sad you base your knowledge of marxism and communism on a short pamphlet you maybe even haven't read in its entirety.
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gol979 · 41-45, M
@Emosaur yeah it does. I will not follow the ideology of communism, hence it ceases to exist. You can try and impose it......and theres the rub. You will have to not only control the market, in the end you will have to control people who disagree with you. And the tool to manipulate this control will more than likely be a government, a very authoritarian government
Gloomy · F
@gol979 Capitalism is imposed on us isn't it? Do you think any political/economic system people live under is imposed or do you only use that silly argument to slander communism?
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Gloomy · F
@gol979 [quote]control the market[/quote]

Currently markets are controlling us so the other way round would be preferable
gol979 · 41-45, M
@Emosaur nope, because this version of capitalism (pseduo state sponsored/o!igarchy) is being imposed on you. Communism is the other side of the coin. Virtually the same result
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gol979 · 41-45, M
@Emosaur but if millions of people disagree with the definition of work.....which i guarantee millions will, exactly the same as this version of capitalism, it will then be imposed. Different side of the same coin
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