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The Current Disaster in Ukraine

Many apparently believe that when the Berlin Wall came down back in 1989, and then two years later the USSR imploded, that these events signalled the final end to the 'Cold War'. This is rather strange when you actually consider all that took place after these events, and the current (and rather sad) state of the world today. The 'Cold War' over? [i]It never ended![/i]
In fact, the so-called Doomsday Clock is now closer to midnight than it's EVER been, and maybe I shouldn't, but I DO worry about the war in Ukraine getting worse, and spreading to other nations within Eastern Europe. Need I worry? I think so!
The truth is I don't "support" either side in that, profoundly stupid, war. Both sides (and by that expression, I mean NATO and Russia, not Ukraine and Russia) in the conflict seem determined to make it even worse, and being the politicians they are, they don't give a damn about anyone or anything apart from "saving face"! It's sickening, it truly is.

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Elessar · 26-30, M

No kiddo, the parts involved here are Russia and Ukraine. Hadn't Putin invaded or had Putin retreated soon enough, NATO wouldn't bother sending military aids.

If it really was Russia vs NATO, the war would've truly ended in three days.

Cassie2083

@Elessar Oh for goodness' sake. Are you not aware of the background to this war, the (main) reason why Putin, in his infinite wisdom, decided to invade in the first place? Can you at least hazard a guess?
Hint: Google the following - a map of NATO nations in Europe in 1991, and a map of the current members. Compare the two. Make a note of in which direction the alliance is moving.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Cassie2083 Dude, you've really chugged on Kremlin's Kool aid. Look when Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania entered the alliance. Look where they're situated, relatively to the Russian border.

Also look at the NATO map in 2021 and compare it with 2023. Infinite wisdom, indeed, he made it even larger 🤣

Cassie2083

@Elessar My "infinite wisdom" comment was clearly sarcasm, but of course you didn't notice that. Ever since the Clinton years (you know, the 1990's), the U.S. in particular has been pushing for NATO expansion to the borders of Russia. That is a fact.
How would the U.S. respond if, for example, Mexico and Canada were to join an alliance hostile the U.S.? Would they not invade to prevent that? [b]Of course they would![/b]

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Elessar · 26-30, M

@Cassie2083 Dude, if Russia wasn't such a sh*tty neighbor no easter country would bother joining NATO. Look at Finland if you want a fresh example.

Spare me the bullsh*t. The one and only reason for this war is Russia imperialism and they themselves have admitted to it publicly.

[u]https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60562240[/u]

Cassie2083

@Elessar "If it really was Russia vs NATO, the war would've truly ended in three days."

Really? How? No wait, don't tell me - you're one of those clowns who actually believes the nonsense that Ukraine is actually [i]winning[/i] the war, and that Russia is "so weak" that NATO troops would be in Moscow for lunch, or tea at the latest, because... well, you know, they're so "superior" and all of that, and because "the Russians can't fight", or something equally erroneous and ridiculous. 😂

People like you really need to wake up.

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Cassie2083

@Elessar "Spare me the bullshit", says the person who is full of bullshit. 😂
Why oh why do I have to constantly deal with idiots and trolls whenever I do something as innocuous as simply state my opinion on something? (sigh)
It gets really tiresome at times.

Cassie2083

@Elessar A link to the BBC! 😂😂🤣

THAT is your unbiased source? Seriously?

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Cassie2083 Take your own advice lmao. The mighty second army in the world, after struggling for over one year in a "three days military operation" that cannot take and keep Bahkmut, in his drunken hallucinations, believes it can match NATO lmao.

No, three days until Putin panics and launches, after which the US and the rest of nuclear armed states also launch, Moscow and a large amount of cities all over the world turn into a patch of radioactive glass. Three days for that. *Pray* it remains between Ukraine and Russia.

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Elessar · 26-30, M

@Cassie2083 There's the links to the RIA inside and the web-archive reference to the article in question in there, but why am I even expecting a room temperature IQ troll to open it? 🤣

Cassie2083

@Elessar Oh gee, how convincing. Personal insults. Big Vladdy cock? Is that all you have to offer? Nothing... oh I don't know. Intelligent to say perhaps?
Well, I can see in your infinite wisdom (once again, sarcasm) that you've definitely made your case clear to me and won this debate! Oh yes you have, yes you have! Who's a good boy now?
😂

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Cassie2083

@Elessar 'Elessar', or whatever the hell your name really is, just give up already. You can't possibly "win" in any debate against me. That just isn't possible.
Go home to mummy, and have a good cry to her about the nasty, evil woman who "supports Vlad Putin". Here, have a tissue, and blow that snotty nose of yours. 🤣🤪

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Cassie2083 There is nothing to win here, indeed, I don't even bother trying with the mentally challenged - who still haven't figured out they're citing things said by someone else while replying to me 🤣

Figure how much you can understand of this situation, when you fail to grasp how to hit Reply LMFAO

LordShadowfire · 100+, M

@Elessar I see you're playing chess with pigeons again. 😆

Elessar · 26-30, M

@LordShadowfire Pigeons surclass this dude by at least a 10x factor, trust me

Cassie2083

@Elessar "Mentally challenged"! That's rich coming from you! 😂
And I do "tag" correctly, but you really shouldn't be so lazy as to resort to shorthand like "LMFAO". What does that even mean? "Lick My Fruity Ass Over"? Don't be such a child.

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Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@Elessar since 2014 under Obama the USA has been busy getting this war on. Nobody thinks anyone can stop endless wars from you. Nobody will survive you.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Roundandroundwego Here comes the tankie. You don't account for the fact that this war is initiated by Putin. Had Putin not invaded == no war.

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