How can anyone support jesus and capitalism?

@hippyjoe1955 that's facism

@Guitarman123 That's fact. You cant deny it either. Without the State there would be no communism or socialism.

@hippyjoe1955 that's a contradiction as communists in particular want the state gone

@Guitarman123 Yeah in your dreams. Without the government there could be no communism. Human nature doesn't work that way. Communism must be imposed by the state.

@hippyjoe1955 in reality as that what communists stand for

@Guitarman123 Yes we know. Communists are anti human. That is why the 'communist' countries around the world have no problem with slaughtering their own people in search of the elusive utopia no one can actually define.

@hippyjoe1955 communists are for a society where all people have a fair chance regardless of class background or ethnicity

@Guitarman123 No communists are about killing people who stand in the way of achieving their utopia. Utopias that deny human nature are only sustainable by mass murder. Communism is just such a utopia.

@hippyjoe1955 according to American fear mongering

@Guitarman123 No. Simply the case. Such is human nature. Find me one society that has been successful in bringing about your utopia.

@hippyjoe1955 human nature is just as much about being social and Co operative as it is serving self interest

@Guitarman123 Name one society that has adopted your utopia.

@hippyjoe1955 I'm not talking about utopia

@Guitarman123 Of course you are. So name one society anywhere in the world that successfully adopted your ideal.

@hippyjoe1955 I'm really not

@Guitarman123 Not what? I am asking you to name one society that adopted and maintained without mass killing or expulsion what you advocate.

@hippyjoe1955 really not talking about utopia

@Guitarman123 I have lowered the bar twice and you still can't name one society that has ever brought about what you advocate. Hmmmm.

@hippyjoe1955 lowered the bar as low as your iq already is? I'm impressed

@Guitarman123 So you can't name or point to one success for your ideal. Hmmm.

@hippyjoe1955 your strawmanning so I'm unable to play along with that fallacy

@Guitarman123 No I am asking for an example. If you can't name one then maybe your idea is not very workable. Kind of like warp drive is fiction not fact.

@hippyjoe1955 strawmanning again

@Guitarman123 son if you can't provide an example in the real world .... That isn't strawman that is seeking evidence. Please provide some

@hippyjoe1955 stop strawmanning kid and come back to me when you've learned the subject matter