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Less or no government is a thing of the right these days, I'm afraid 🤭
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic or so they claim, while trying to pass new restrictions on women's health care.
@LordShadowfire Meh, I just find the FAR left are alot more authoratian these days than they used to be, and my goodness I'm in my thirties.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I'm finding the opposite. The party of big government, according to the right, seems to want fewer restrictions.
Maybe it's different where you're living.
Maybe it's different where you're living.
@LordShadowfire Yeah that's a problem, you're right, we just assume everything according to our own Country.
But ofcourse I predict a certsin man who plays the guitar and an individual who comes from Barnsley will hop in and disagree.
Politics 🙄
But ofcourse I predict a certsin man who plays the guitar and an individual who comes from Barnsley will hop in and disagree.
Politics 🙄
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic And that's why we take it with a grain of salt.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic it isn't. They like to pretend they are anti government, but it just isnt the case
BohemianBabe · M
@BritishFailedAesthetic
Ignore rhetoric/imagery and just focus on policy. Which side is trying to ban things? The Right is trying to nationally ban abortion, DeathSantis just banned lab-grown meat, and the Right is already talking about banning porn when project 2025 goes through. I could go on. The only authoritarianism is coming from the Republicans.
Maybe it's different in the UK. I would agree that laws against hate speech are kinda authoritarian, though even that is a grey area, since we also have laws against defamation and threats of violence.
Less or no government is a thing of the right these days
Ignore rhetoric/imagery and just focus on policy. Which side is trying to ban things? The Right is trying to nationally ban abortion, DeathSantis just banned lab-grown meat, and the Right is already talking about banning porn when project 2025 goes through. I could go on. The only authoritarianism is coming from the Republicans.
Maybe it's different in the UK. I would agree that laws against hate speech are kinda authoritarian, though even that is a grey area, since we also have laws against defamation and threats of violence.
@BohemianBabe Complicated, innit? 😅
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe in the uk, your demonised for being a striking worker and expressing solidarity for Palestine
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic those with right wing views claim to be anti government only do so because they're highly religious and want to maintain traditional values. Its nothing to do with ending hierarchy. They want to be the one with the hierarchical control
@Guitarman123 Errr..... you can be right wing and Christian ofcourse. You can be left and Christian.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic ye, you can. Keir hardie was a Christian socialist. Their is also those who are basically Christian nationalists.
@Guitarman123 Keir Hardie's allegedly Christian beliefs were problematic to say the least. Let's not even mention that he nowhere proffessed that accepting Christ's sacrifice and shed blood on the cross was the only way to heaven.
Kind of like the fake USSR priests.
Kind of like the fake USSR priests.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic not really as it served as a big inspiration for him starting the labour party. He believed that true Christians helped those in need and not just go to church and pray. Theirs Christian athiests who fully follow the teachings of jesus but dont believe their is a god.
@Guitarman123
Yes, helping the poor is what Christians should be doing but fellowship and prayer is very crucial as well. The gospel though is the most important thing for a Christian to share.
That will not save them from hell. Like the rest of us they don't follow Jesus's teachings perfectly and need an atonement, Christ's sacrifice.
He believed that true Christians helped those in need and not just go to church and pray.
Yes, helping the poor is what Christians should be doing but fellowship and prayer is very crucial as well. The gospel though is the most important thing for a Christian to share.
Theirs Christian athiests who fully follow the teachings of Jesus .
That will not save them from hell. Like the rest of us they don't follow Jesus's teachings perfectly and need an atonement, Christ's sacrifice.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic quote from hardie himself
“The work of the Labour movement today is to apply those principles of Christ’s teaching to modern industrial and economic problems so as to bring about the time when there shall be no poverty, either of body, mind, or spirit, but in a land, in a world so beautiful, so richly endowed, that there shall be abundance for all.”[1]
Keir Hardie (1910)
“The work of the Labour movement today is to apply those principles of Christ’s teaching to modern industrial and economic problems so as to bring about the time when there shall be no poverty, either of body, mind, or spirit, but in a land, in a world so beautiful, so richly endowed, that there shall be abundance for all.”[1]
Keir Hardie (1910)
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
@Guitarman123 "Christian atheist" is a contradiction in terms, like a meat-eating vegan
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Christian atheists don't concern themselves with metaphysics
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP they follow Christian teachings but don't believe in metaphysics