Why do countries with larger amounts of Syrian refugees have more terrorist attacks?

Please explain this to me. I know why, but I want to hear the opinions of people who would like to bring more Syrian refugees in to the U.S.

This is in response to the ORLY attacks in Paris.

PLEASE, if you are against Syrian refugees coming to the U.S. don't answer this question. I want to hear other opinions.

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CaptainCanadia · 41-45, M

There's no real evidence of this. Keep in mind that half of the Syrian refugees are children, and that the countries who have taken the most (Turkey, Germany) aren't seeing the kind of spike in terrorism you'd expect from such vast numbers. Germany has taken in 600k refugees compared to France's 11k. So you'd think that Germany would have 60x more terrorist attacks and they just don't.

Also, the terrorist attacks are nearly always carried out by citizens, not refugees.

This is about understanding how ISIS recruits. Their goal is to make life as miserable as possible for Muslims who have not joined. If young Muslims deal with alienation, racism, and no promise of a great future, ISIS is appealing. Terrorist attacks make people hate all Muslims more, and ISIS profits off of that. ISIS may also attack countries that take in refugees because they want people to turn away the refugees.

In wake of this, the right thing to do is to welcome and be good neighbors to everyone regardless of religion or race, and take in people who need help. The alternative is either hatred or cowardice, and we should be better than that.

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CaptainCanadia · 41-45, M

@heatherpommelman - I am not a liberal. And fleeing because someone turned your city into rubble and promised the death of your family is not cowardice. What a horrible thing to say.

@katielass - How many Muslims have you discussed this theory with? Because I have Muslim friends and co-workers and they're getting along fine.

Lemme be clear. The problem is not that people from Muslim countries cannot adapt to western society because there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. The arguments you're using were used against every wave of immigrants ever and repeatedly failed to hold up in history. Germans, Norwegians, the Dutch, the Irish, Ukrainians, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese - it goes on - ALL of them got "They aren't like us and will never learn to be like us."

It's not that they can't adapt to western society, it's that people like you won't accept them.

katielass · F

@TyphoidJerry: Jerry, it doesn't matter if you're the only white guy in a factory of muslims. It does not change the fact that they do not assimilate into western society. A stray one here and there means nothing. The couple who slaughtered their coworkers in calif. right after being given a shower , they were allegedly assimilated too. IDK why you people don't get it, perhaps because you don't want to get it.

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@heatherpommelman: Well when rockets start shelling the outskirts of your town, men with guns are marching everywhere, a firefight breaks out at the local grocery store, and a suicide bomber kills 9 people in a nearby church, let's see how you handle it Rambo, let alone if you had kids to think about.

TheSuburbanErrorist · 56-60, M

Erm, they don't is the short answer and as for the Orly attack he was French born French national.

heatherpommelman · 31-35, F

So you're saying that Syrian refugees, mostly males in their 20s, are perfectly fine and nothing bad comes with them?

TheSuburbanErrorist · 56-60, M

Where did I say that?
I said the statement that countries with most Syrian refugees had the most terrorist attacks is incorrect because it is.
You also said that your post was in response to the Orly attacks so I pointed out that the attack was carried out by a French born French national so nothing to do with Syrian refugees.
I don't know about the US but in Europe I think the main problem is people already living here and are European citizens being radicalised rather than coming in to Europe as a refugee and already a terrorist(though probably some will come via that route). Many I think have criminal pasts and it appears that they are maybe radicalised in prison, surely something can be done about that?

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

The places with the MOST terrorist attacks are actually the places the refugees are fleeing. There is actually a much stronger correlation in terror attacks to nations that are active in the middle east or other contentious zones.

It may surprise some people to hear it, but the French are actually militarily active in many muslim regions, particularly in North Africa. It's this that corresponds much better with terror attacks. As evidenced by that since 2011, Germany has experienced 7 terrorist attacks, 2 of which had fatalities other than the perpetrator. France however, despite only hosting a fraction of the number of refugees, has had 24 attacks in the same time period, with 8 of them having fatalities other than the perpetrator. The US hosts fewer refugees than either France or Germany, but is much more active in the middle east. The number of attacks in the US since 2011? 32, events with non-perpetrator fatalities, 18.

heatherpommelman · 31-35, F

The US is also a much bigger country...

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@heatherpommelman: That's true, in both size and population. Germany has a higher population than France though, and accepted more refugees, and yet still has much less violence.

But then there's Russia...by land the largest. By population, about half the size of the US, though much greater than either France of Germany. Terrorist attacks there? 31 in 2013 alone, I don't even know about in 2011, 12, 14, 15, or 16. And Russia has fewer refugees than any of the other countries we mentioned.

If there is any correlation between refugees and terror attacks, it clearly pales in comparison to other factors.

ghtthebacker · F

Dumb liberals

SW-User

I believe it's because terror organizations from Syria are sneaking into countries disguised as Syrian refugees. Using fake identities.

katielass · F

And of course these refugees cannot be vetted. Why anyone insists on being downright stupid is beyond me. I hope that superior feeling they have comforts them as the knife starts slicing their head off.

eMortal · M

Germany has less attacks than France.

heatherpommelman · 31-35, F

Still have a lot though.

LoneKnight · M

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