Why is challenging permissive parenting so important?

Because it is a philosophy which is self-evidently untrue but has been so successfully propagandized by Left-wing ideologues, over the last half-century, that it has acquired the status held by the Gospels in former times. The goal is the destruction, or marginalization, of the family, which is the most important remaining institution standing between the state and the individual.

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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F Best Comment

I have heard adults who were raised permissively in the 1960's say that they had trouble adjusting to rules and boundaries as adults because of it, and they harbored resentment towards their parents for not setting proper rules and boundaries for them.

Niburu · 51-55, M

my kids goto Catholic school, they are well aware that there are rules and consequences
all meals at home are at the dining room table together as a family

SW-User

First, the goal of permissive parenting is not "the destruction or marginalization of the family." It is a parenting style promoted by well-meaning researchers and educators, same as any other parenting style.

The only scientific critique of permissive parenting is that students tend to achieve lower grades. If that is your measure of success, then it is evidently less effective (which is not to say ineffective). On other markers like empathy and creativity, it proves more successful than other styles. Still in all, most experts believe several parenting styles coalesced to form a broad but consistent style is the best approach.

Incidentally, the Bible called for stoning children to death. That is printed in the OT, but no laws were suddenlly changed between the OT and the gospels.

beckychandler · F

They are “well-meaning” in the sense they sincerely believe in their ideological agenda and that it is in the greater good to mislead parents with their phony research (which was undoubtedly funded to a great extent by taxpayer dollars) as an organization of some 69,000 pediatricians and pediatric researchers were sufficiently alarmed they issued a warning last month: https://similarworlds.com/story?fid=2327115&tid=596949&name=I-Am-A-Strict-Mom

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@beckychandler: You have a skewed perception of the truth here. One, the entire medical community isn't alarmed about a warning that suddenly this approach for parenting is dangerous. Many, many research studies have been performed on this technique over the years, on other techniques, and comparisons of techniques. Permissive parenting is in no way condemned by the medical community as a whole and no "final conclusion" are ever made in science. Permissive parenting has its detractors and its champions.

And let's solve this right away: Scientists and researchers work for the sake of knowledge and discovery. Science has nothing to do with politics or government. The scientific community is such that the competition wouldn't even allow such subservience to government. They are not pawns kept in a dark room to "prove" whatever the leader you don't like tries to say.

Discovery, enlightenment and progression are not the devil's toys. They're what we should strive for an dismissing anything out of hand precludes people from doing just that.

Cierzo · M

Agree. The destruction of the family is well-planned. If you add the marginalization of religion, and the increasing automation which will make many workers redundant, or those who remain getting more robotic, there will not be any institutions between the person and the state.

Niburu · 51-55, M

sometimes kids need a pop on the butt to get their attention

beckychandler · F

[b]Permissive parenting[/b] is much more comprehensive than being utterly shocked by the idea of a bop on an unruly child's rear, as I touched upon in this little essay: https://similarworlds.com/story?fid=2327115&tid=585015&name=I-Am-A-Strict-Mom but that is where the Left-wing ideologues started their mind games – with fake research about spanking: https://similarworlds.com/story?fid=2327115&tid=596949&name=I-Am-A-Strict-Mom

beckychandler · F

This is permissive parenting:

This is not permissive parenting:

bijouxbroussard · F

It's an oversimplification in both cases.

bijouxbroussard · F

You can control how you raise [b]YOUR[/b] children, and that's really where what you can do about it ends. But there are plenty of foster kids waiting who need homes. How many have you taken in to parent ? That's a way of [quote]challenging permissive parenting [/quote] that is more than just talk.

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bijouxbroussard · F

@beckychandler: Much more. But people don't really focus on that when they're standing in front of women's clinics chanting and calling names. Or when they vote to cut programs that would help lower income mothers and children. That's basically punishing the women who have chosen to give birth in spite of their circumstances.

beckychandler · F

@bijouxbroussard: Well, there you lose me. The women healthcare aspect of Planned Parenthood is a fraud and smokescreen. Those services (including contraception) are available at a higher quality from legitimate doctors and clinics which provide higher quality services, and almost all of which accept Medicaid. Planned Parenthood is in the business of killing unborn children.

bijouxbroussard · F

@beckychandler: You're someone who has broken things down to "left vs. right", and I have no illusions about you being able to see the other side with any type of compassion. Like I said, I've volunteered there and have seen how low income women have been helped. So it's not about a political agenda for me.

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