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Which will tank the US economy faster? Inflation (and layoffs) or the coming AI data center write-offs which are certain to happen?



Photo Above – Musk canceled production of the Cybertruck after just 2 years. Because there’s no demand at $60,000 each, and the factories are running at 10% capacity. Musk NOW claims the Cybercab ($30K) will keep his factories humming. But that’s what the original Cybertruck was supposed to sell for. Is anyone buying this BS?

I did NOT ask ChatGPT to answer this question: is inflation - or AI - a bigger threat to our economy? I didn't ask, because I saw a news article this morning that ChatGPT – and almost every other LLM – can’t even count to 4. They all claim – adamantly – that “seventeen” has only 3 “e’s” in it. Google this if you don't believe me.

So if we are spending billions to turn our banks accounts and shopping over to an AI system that can’t even count to past 3, then why would I ask it anything about the US economy?

ChatGPT is a subscription-based computer game. Not a financial tool, But I’m not declaring that AI it will be the ruin of the US economy. I’m voting for inflation. Hear me out.

America is approaching 500,000 layoffs this year. Xfinity just announced thousands of layoffs in Pennsylvania, California, and several other states. Because people are bailing – by the millions – for cheaper streaming services. Inflation has driven cable bills too high. Firing thousands of Xfinity workers will probably lead to more cable cancellations, because it will take longer to get service outages fixed. ("Press 1 to confirm your appointment a week from next Tuesday . . .")

The average home mortgage is now well over 7%. But buyers shouldn't wait. Rates will be even higher after the Federal Reserve meets in December. And with construction costs this high, homebuilders are laying off their workers. Permits for new construction are at multi-year lows.

Drive past any mall. The parking lots are 2/3rds empty. Blame high gasoline prices, high food prices, high electronics prices (all the good chips are going to data centers. Or on secret flights from Nvidia to Beijing). Friends tell me that even Goodwill stores are raising prices on discarded clothes and furniture.

The average new car in America now costs $51,000 - plus taxes, tags, registration fees, destination fees. They seldom advertise actual cars during NFL games anymore - only pickup trucks. The average cost of an F150 or Silverado is $68,000.

The New York Times is fronting a story this morning about stores selling thanksgiving dinner pies for $150 each. Farmers are probably going broke trying to raise turkeys.

Electricity. Gasoline. Food. Rent. This is what folks in Europe are rioting about. There’s arson and unrest because so many people are out of work and can’t afford to buy stuff.

All these layoffs – especially in America – have the potential to create an economic death spiral. Car repos, home loan defaults, and store bankruptcies. Anyone remember 2008-09? The federal government claims credit for “fixing 2008 housing crisis" by throwing trillions at corporate America to bail them out. And adding the bill to the national debt which we must repay. Is this what we want in 2027 too?

Just to be fair though, I’m NOT saying that that faulty AI products are without risk. Because if corporations - and people like you and me - are cutting expenses, there are going to be a LOT of half-finished data centers around the world. Bank failures, maybe?

Politicians campaign with the promise that they can repeal business cycles and prevent future recessions. But all the government did was burden us with $41 trillion in debt, which is why the Federal Reserve keeps sticking it to us with higher interest rates.

I’m just sayin’ . . .
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
There is a further complication in that much of the money being used to develop AI and the massive data centres in America is being borrowed by the developing corporations. This is drying up the money supply and driving up interest rates even more.. And risking the viability of these corporations, which are now heavily leveraged.. Plus straining the viability of the banks and pension funs invested in them..
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Is this the bit where I get to say " I told you so" ?
😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman i have predicted 5 of the last 2 recessions, also
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida That actually makes sense. But I will only go to the trouble of explaining it if you seriously interested. There are a lot of words involved..😷
China's ascendancy as the sooner-than-anticipated richest country on Earth?
@SusanInFlorida

Despite its flaws I think most sane people would have to admit the West - led by the U.S.A. - has largely been a force for GOOD since 1945 onward. May we continue to prosper.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@rinkydinkydoink i cant say your wrong. even though both biden and trump were a step backwards
@SusanInFlorida

Let's glance at the future... which possible contenders for the presidency excite you the most. From both parties?
Gibbon · 70-79, M
I don't know. But the damn data centers are an AI financial black hole. It's a plain as day and the dumbasses keep doubling down on it. The algorithm broke dudes. Throwing more data at it just makes the damn conflating and fabrication of wrong answers worse. They're watching it unfold before them in disbelief. Anyone who's been using it over the past couple of years has just been watching it get worse and worse.
GoFish ·
irrational democrats leaching off the system
and driving business owners out of the country
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@GoFish all politicians leach off the season. during the current administration the national debt increased as fast as under biden
Convivial · 26-30, F
It's not looking good....

 
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