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Trump Signs Executive Order Targeting Mail-In Voting Ahead of Midterms

President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed a sweeping executive order aimed at tightening mail-in voting rules, a move his administration says is necessary to restore confidence in U.S. elections ahead of the upcoming midterms.

The directive takes significant steps to ensure only eligible voters receive absentee ballots.

It instructs the Department of Homeland Security, working alongside the Social Security Administration, to compile a verified list of U.S. citizens eligible to vote.

Under the order, mail-in ballots would be limited to individuals on that list, marking a major shift toward stricter oversight of ballot distribution.

The plan also strengthens enforcement mechanisms.

Attorney General Pam Bondi is authorized to investigate and potentially prosecute officials or individuals who distribute ballots to ineligible recipients.

In addition, the U.S. Postal Service would be required to send ballots only to approved voters and use secure, trackable envelopes designed to prevent fraud and improve transparency, according to TIME.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Good idea. There are some very dodgy characters who vote by mail.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl Dodgy? More like approaching treason.

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@BizSuitStacy So your evidence of mailing fraud consists of betting odds that proved to be wide of the actual outcome. Which you have correlated for no particular reason with an increase in postal ballots (which is logically related to Covid restrictions on movement). And you suggest without evidence (or any way of knowing which candidate these votes were cast for) that millions of mail in votes are fraudulent.

Utterly bonkers.
@SunshineGirl Yeah, the biz-suited one is bonkers. She/he blocked me back in 2022 after predicting that millions of Americans would come down with "vaccine AIDS" in six months time. When time had passed and I started reminding her/him about the silly prediction, she/he promptly blocked me🤣😂

As you pointed out, his/her inability to take Covid restrictions into account during 2020 is laughable! She/he is also taking as gospel some unknown probability model built on unknown assusmptions. He/she is also ignoring the fact that many states have laws that prevent them from opening already-received mail-in ballots until all polling station ballots are counted. This introduces a delay that gives rise to all kinds of right-wing conspiracy stooopidity.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 Did you know that, under tRump's proposed rule, a driver's license is NOT acceptable for voter registration?

Yep, even a license with "Real ID" is NOT acceptable for voter registration.

What IS acceptable?? A PASSPORT!! for $165
Or your ORIGINAL birth certificate; how to prove it's original??

Admit it, sunstroke, it's all about voter suppression!!

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Yup, supressing the voting of ineligible voters

SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@sunsporter1649 How many prosecutions have there been in the USA for fraudulent registration of a dead voter? (as opposed to administrative error in maintaining an ekectoral roll) 🤔
@SunshineGirl Oh, we're DROWNING in evidence of "voter fraud"

@SunshineGirl A more serious answer:

I've got NO PROBLEM with the theory of voter ID, as long as it's free and easy. I DO have a problem with the practice of making it differentially harder for the elderly & working poor. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/challenge-obtaining-voter-identification

"Voter ID laws have been estimated by the U.S. Government Accountability Office to reduce voter turnout by 2-3 percentage points, translating to tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state." https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/block-the-vote-voter-suppression-in-2020/

Alabama is a case in point. A state shouldn't be allowed to do what Alabama did, passing voter ID laws and then closing ID issuing offices in predominantly poor or black counties.





The GAO estimate says current voter ID laws reduce turnout by 2 or 3% per election. Let's take the lower number, 2%. That means that in the 2020 election, current voter ID laws deprived over 3 million people of their vote. Now I agree voter fraud is a problem. But isn't voter disenfranchisement similarly a problem? How would you weigh 300 cases of in person voter fraud against 3 million cases of voter disenfranchisement?

The evidence of suppression rate via current voter ID methods is 2-3 percent.

Just out of curiosity, what evidence is there of the rate of actual voter fraud such as would be caught by stricter voter ID laws?
... reviewed allegations of fraud dating back to 2000. He identified 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast over that period.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/?utm_term=.4f75c66acbc8

Another report:
The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Thus, the report found, it is more likely an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”
https://www.brennancenter.org/publication/truth-about-voter-fraud
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@ElwoodBlues That's a relief, I was beginning to think that voter fraud was a political myth with no factual basis 😊
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@ElwoodBlues Conservatives in our country pursue the same arguments with the same absence of evidence. So we now have to employ 50% more staff at polling stations to check ID and you have to carry your passport around with you to exercise a basic right of citizenship.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 Oops!! Your famous reading comprehension skills have failed you yet again🤣😂😝🤣😂

!!! Spoonfeeding time !!!


A driver's license, even with 'Real ID' is NOT an acceptable form of identification for registration under tRump's new "SAVE Act."

Lemme repeat that: A driver's license, even with 'Real ID' is NOT an acceptable form of identification under tRump's new "SAVE Act."

Got it, sunstroke??

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Everybody votes, illegal aliens, citizens of china, dead civil war veterans, everybody! Ain't amerika grand!
@sunsporter1649 Oops!! Your famous reading comprehension skills have failed you yet again🤣😂😝🤣😂

!!! Spoonfeeding time !!!

Just out of curiosity, what evidence is there of the rate of actual voter fraud such as would be caught by stricter voter ID laws? Oh, wait, I looked for you:
... reviewed allegations of fraud dating back to 2000. He identified 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast over that period.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/?utm_term=.4f75c66acbc8

Lemme repeat that for you, sunstroke: He identified 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast over that period.

And again: He identified 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast over that period.

All that voter suppression due to 31 cases of voter fraud?? Seriously???

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Everybody votes, illegal aliens, citizens of china, dead civil war veterans, everybody! Ain't amerika grand!
@sunsporter1649 More evidence-free dribble🤣😂😝🤣😂

Just out of curiosity, what evidence is there of the rate of actual voter fraud such as would be caught by stricter voter ID laws? Oh, wait, I looked for you:
... reviewed allegations of fraud dating back to 2000. He identified 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast over that period.

Lemme repeat that for you, sunstroke: He identified 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast over that period.

And again: [b]He identified 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast over that period.[b]

He identified 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast over that period.

All that voter suppression due to 31 cases of voter fraud?? Seriously???
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Everybody votes, illegal aliens, citizens of china, dead civil war veterans, everybody! Ain't amerika grand