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Question: Why don’t more Republicans push toward healthcare?

As all of you know, I consider myself to be a progressive—or a “deform” Republican. I believe in healthcare for many different reasons, but my main reasoning is this: I think healthcare can play an important role in ending human trafficking. By dedicating a significant portion of it to helping victims who’ve been trafficked, we could give them access to free human services and therapy.

I’m just kind of curious—Republicans, or even conservatives (though I’m not a conservative, I am a Republican)—why don’t more of you talk about this?
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It also would likely reduce the number of shootings. When a brand new AR 15 and a box of ammo is cheaper than therapy people are going to be incentivized to shoot their problems instead of going to therapy.
Jayciedubb · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow it could be that it's the therapy that leads to the shootings. To be clear, I'm talking about the meds that accompany the therapy
@Jayciedubb No it can't. That is a conspiracy theory that is easily debunked.


If it was connected to meds it would not be an exclusively American issue.

These meds are used globally.
Jayciedubb · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow JFK's assassination is also a conspiracy theory, yet only fools believe the narrative the conspirators expected us all to believe.

You're going to have to do much better than that in order to debunk this theory
@Jayciedubb Not remotely the same thing.


Are you saying Americans have a magical unique brain chemistry that psych drugs impact them differently than the entire rest of the human race?

That is what is required to believe your conspiracy theory.
Jayciedubb · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow you haven't taken into consideration enough data to jump to such an ignorant conclusion. There are many other factors to consider and need to be considered in order to dismiss the correlation of the amount of school shootings increasing at the same times the laws have been becoming more lenient with regards to the way pharmaceutical companies have been allowed to advertise their drugs to the American people, unlike any other country, except New Zealand, as pure coincidence.

Think about it. How long have we had the right to bear arms? Why has it only been a problem in the past few decades? How long have the pharmaceutical companies been allowed to advertise their prescription medication directly to the American public?

We're not even 5% of the worlds population yet we take half of the prescription meds. ..coincidence? ..conspiracy?

I'm not here to play checkers with you, kid. Come correct or stay on the porch.
@Jayciedubb Um no. You are trying to making up an excuse out of thin air to fit your conspiracy my guess is in a desperate attempt to pretend that guns are not an issue in the US.

There is plenty of data. The US in a single year has more mass shootings than most countries do across decades. That is simply a fact.


You contradict yourself by stating there are multiple factors yet claim a pill magically has a completely different effect exclusively on people of a single nationality with zero evidence to support that conculsion.

And advertisement does not magically change the chemistry of the pills which is what would be required for your conspiracy to work.

And you are being dishonest with your statistic about prescription drugs. That doesn't just include psychiatric drugs. It covers all drugs and you live in a country that allowed companies to create an opiate crisis.

So nice try.


You are here to pretend guns don't matter and push the Scientology claim that psychiatry is actually the problem based entirely on conjecture and zero evidence.
@Jayciedubb Also a major flaw in your claim ignores the inconvenient fact that many people in therapy are not medicated in any way.

And the number of Americans on SSRIs that conspiracy theorists tried to blame shootings on in the 90s is only 13%.
Jayciedubb · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow considering that the major changes to the way the pharmaceutical companies that allows them to advertise directly to the general public didn't happen until the late 90s, that 13% seems very high . why stop at the 90s anyway? What are the stats to date?

I only recall the Columbine massacre in the 90s anyway, and at least one of those kids was medicated. He might be that 13% all by himself
@Jayciedubb Again, ads don't change the biochemistry of Americans so they exclusively react violently to SSRIs available all over the world for decades.

13% is tiny compared to the number of shootings in a single year and that is less than half of people in therapy.

The 90s was when these drugs became readily available which also blows up your claims because American active shooters predate these drugs by decades.

You are determined to make up any excuse to make it about magical drugs.

And you really need to educate yourself if you think this started with Columbine.

The song "I don't like Mondays" was about a school shooting in 1979.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@Jayciedubb I'm on SSRIs for OCD and depression. Never killed anyone nor planning to.
Jayciedubb · 56-60, M
@basilfawlty89 that's nifty, checkers. Im a combat veteran with PTSD. I've been on many. The ones the VA had me on were antipsychotics. When they asked me to hand over my firearms, I quit taking their drugs. They were taking me farther away from where I was trying to go.

Have you ever read the warning labels on your meds? They could be a clue to any bogus data saying shooters aren't on meds. I think they all warn of suicidal thoughts if you stop taking them abruptly.

No need to reply if it's going to be as ignorant as this last one. ..seriously
@Jayciedubb Sadly you are just proving that they were right to suggest you surrender your guns.

You have fallen so far down the rabbit hole you are showing obvious signs of paranoia and seeing conspiracies everywhere.
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