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Apparently, Iran had made a "surprising" offer about its nuclear program. There was real hope for a breakthrough. But the US and Israel didn't care.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/17/uk-security-adviser-attended-us-iran-talks-and-judged-deal-was-within-reach
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
On one level, I find this news very sad, because it means we are definitely the bad guys in this war.

But there's a part of me that wonders if Iran would have actually honored any deal that they made.
Waveney · 41-45, M
@LordShadowfire Trump started this whole thing by ripping up the original treaty that Obama signed. And it's difficult to see any reason for it, except for jealousy.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Waveney I'm fully aware of that. Anything that has Obama's signature on it makes him inordinately angry.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Waveney He continues to blame Obama and Biden for everything. His hatred for them is so obvious! I heard him lash out again against both of them this morning. If he had any brains, he would shut up already about them!
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Zonuss · 46-50, M
Yeah sure. I call bluff. I dont think they even agreed to anything.
Its all propaganda to get people riled up over nothing.
But we shall see.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@Waveney I watched the International News, and Al Jazeera.
That was enough to let me know the our mainstream media is a fraud.
I dont buy it for one second. 🙂
Waveney · 41-45, M
@Zonuss so what did Al Jazeera say?
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@Waveney It said Iran did not approve of anything and that our President lied.
What else is new. 🤣
Northwest · M
But this is common knowledge. The Omani FM was in DC to brief the White House, and ended up meeting with JD Vance, to tell him that a deal "was within reach" and they're moving on to the next phase.

This was Friday Feb 28. Netanyahu launched the war the next day, followed by Trump.

Kushner was not negotiating. He was recruiting clients for his $5B fund and Witkoff was doing who knows what.

Most importantly, Rubio was absent. Shouldn't this have been the Sec. of State's job?

Every "justification" Trump provided is easily and credibly refutable.

La raison du plus fort est toujours la meilleure :

Nous l’allons montrer tout à l’heure.

Un Agneau se désaltérait

Dans le courant d’une onde pure.

Un Loup survient à jeun qui cherchait aventure,

Et que la faim en ces lieux attirait.

Qui te rend si hardi de troubler mon breuvage?

Dit cet animal plein de rage :

Tu seras châtié de ta témérité.

- Sire, répond l’Agneau, que votre Majesté

Ne se mette pas en colère;

Mais plutôt qu’elle considère

Que je me vas désaltérant

Dans le courant,

Plus de vingt pas au-dessous d’Elle,

Et que par conséquent, en aucune façon,

Je ne puis troubler sa boisson.

- Tu la troubles, reprit cette bête cruelle,

Et je sais que de moi tu médis l’an passé.

- Comment l’aurais-je fait si je n’étais pas né?

Reprit l’Agneau, je tette encor ma mère.

- Si ce n’est toi, c’est donc ton frère.

- Je n’en ai point. - C’est donc quelqu’un des tiens :

Car vous ne m’épargnez guère,

Vous, vos bergers, et vos chiens.

On me l’a dit : il faut que je me venge.

Là-dessus, au fond des forêts

Le Loup l’emporte, et puis le mange,

Sans autre forme de procès.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
POTUS wanted to go to war!
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Waveney · 41-45, M
@Gibbon Iran are not the terrorists in this instance. America and Israel are. All this illegal war is doing is heaping misery upon the Iranian people, while the regime sits underground in concrete bunkers, laughing their heads off as they choke the Straits.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@Waveney 🐂💩 they are and have been for 47 years. Why don't you just join them and wave their flag
Waveney · 41-45, M
@Gibbon Nope. It's you and MAGA and Trump who have no idea what the hell you are doing. That's why the rest of the world is turning its back on you. Your only friends now are Russia and Venezuela.

The rest of us are done.

 
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