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beckyromero · 36-40, F
The number one immediate objective should not be regime change per se.

It MUST be the total elimination of the Iranian nuclear weapons program, including preventing the current regime from acquiring a nuclear weapon from North Korea via a Russian route.

This cannot be accomplished without significant ground troops and special forces sent into Iran to secure all of Iran's enriched uranium material.

A favorable regime that both respects individual freedom and liberties for the Iranian people AND gives up its nuclear weapons aspirations will then be necessary.

But I seriously doubt Trump has thought that process through.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@beckyromero I think it’s fair to say that from a military standpoint things are progressing at a satisfactory operational tempo and exceed most expectations from critics and skeptics of a war with Iran.
Militarily, this war is being conducted sequentially, professionally and effectively. Political estimates are always trickier to gauge but the President‘s political leadership leaves much to be desired. But thus far, he seems committed to his own mission.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@CedricH
Militarily, this war is being conducted sequentially, professionally and effectively

We're running out of missiles and spending a lot of $$$ to kill cheap drones.

Typical Trump. He wakes up one day and decides to go to war. He has no concept of planning.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@beckyromero That’s half right, less expensive tools to intercept UAVs are increasingly being produced and fielded by the US (and other U.S partners). But you‘re right, it would be much more reassuring if more money had been allocated to the production of munitions over the last few decades.

Charity · 70-79
Good points, hopefully the reasoning and those points are true.

Trump preached about not aiding countries, not helping countries in their fights for democracy and charging those that the US do help.

I just see what this administration doing is about the resources of Iran. To get the United States hands within the 4th largest oil oil reserve in the world...... This US administration already has its hand in the largest oil reserved which is Venezuela that was just overthrown.

Places like Nigeria, Somalia, Lebanon, Syria where this US administration has been making bombing campaigns in this year all are rich in natural resources and high oil reserves.

Why not help Ukraine and attempt to overthrow the Russian regime?

What about China, China is so strict very little information gets out.

And let's not leave out North Korea.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Charity Oil is certainly always on the President’s very commercial and transactional mind but it’s not strategically dispositive in every instance. The U.S administration is pursuing many separate lines of effort in Venezuela for instance, oil being just one of them. The U.S government is also working toward removing or at least modifying the Cuban regime yet Cuba has no lucrative oil deposits and in fact heavily relies on energy imports.

The operations in Nigeria, Somalia and Syria are not motivated by economic considerations but by tangible counter-terrorism objectives next to more vague humanitarian concerns about the persecution of Christians in northern Nigeria.

Trump‘s antipathy toward Ukraine is longstanding and unfortunate. I sincerely hope that as Russia continues to negotiate in bad faith, the President will eventually increase the pressure on Russia and bolster US support for Ukraine.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
So, let me see if I can summarize here, while also putting in my two cents. What you're saying is regime change in Iran did need to happen. I agree. But right now, with the child in charge, hiring children based on the sole qualification that they never question his childish orders, having fired a bunch of qualified personnel based on arbitrary reasons like race, orientation, and gender identity, this is the absolute worst possible time to do it.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@LordShadowfire Well, geopolitically the moment is opportune, but you‘re right to highlight how the administration has scored gratuitous own goals by dismissing professionals who specialized on Iran.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Truth be told Iran is more of a democracy than the ISA (Israeli States of America) are. They are also much more peaceful and much much much less likely to start a war. The ISA has already committed many war crimes including starting this war unprovoked. Killing the leader of a sovereign nation. Mass murdering civilians which is tantamount to terrorism.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
The United States is a democracy
So sick of seeing this
The US is a Republic damn it
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@CedricH Dems intentionally avoid the term Republic and it pisses me off
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Gibbon Gosh, I don’t. And I am by no means a Democrat or even a Democratic Party sympathizer. The US is a Republic and the American constitution enshrines this republican character of the state even more than it enshrines the democratic character of the state. Yet they‘re both present.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@CedricH you gave the wrong one priority

 
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