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Nobody seems to be asking the right question after Trump said NATO has done nothing for the USA.

As someone who comes from a military family it bothered me. I have known people personally who died fighting American wars of choice.

Everyone seems in a hurry to show off how many of their countrymen died on NATO deployments.

But nobody seems to ask why have we spent 80 years sending our sons and daughters to die for the military adventures of the American empire?

What good did 15 years of fighting and dying in Afghanistan get Canadians? Fighting for a government that tried to crash our lumber industry as punishment for not deploying to Iraq for 20 years too.

What good does it do Canadians to play a suicidal game of chicken with the Chinese Navy for no other reason that the Americans expect us to do it?

At this point multiple American governments have made it clear that we are just cannon fodder.

Especially for Canada and countries like us it is time we stop trading one empire for another.

And frankly there might be less wars of choice if Americans had to do the dying on their own for their own interests.

And never forget 80 years ago the USA sat back and watched the world burn until the very last minute. So why are people so surprised when a POTUS tells it up front that the loyalty is and always has been one sided.

Kissinger was right. Being America's enemy is dangerous, being America's friend is lethal." And he should know. He was one of the people that made it lethal.

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AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M

Kissinger was indeed a brilliant man and strategist

22Michelle · 70-79, T

@AthrillatheHunt Intelligent yes, brilliant no. How much did he really achieve, and how much was dependent on him lying. Brilliant people shouldn't end up scared they could, and should have ended up a charged and deservedly vonvicted war criminal.

AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M

@22Michelle our only SofS ever who understood the Chinese mind .

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@AthrillatheHunt He was proof you can be brilliant and evil.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@22Michelle Depends on how you define his achievements. In an official and later unofficial capacity he was advising presidents till the day he died.

As for some of the biggest messes he was involved in most of that was in Asia which he had no expertise in. He was an expert and scholar on Russia. My guess is his bosses figured "commies are all the same" and stuck him in charge of areas where he was winging it.

When it comes to Russia he knew his stuff and probably was on par with George Kennan in terms of his knowledge.

All that being said the man was a bit to sociopathic for my taste.

ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F

@AthrillatheHunt I'm not surprised you admire a war criminal.

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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@ItsMeMorgue Rich coming from someone justifying the empire he committed those crimes in the name of and justifying the actions of war criminal presidents.

Your outrage is decidedly selective.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@22Michelle Officially yes. But he had been advising presidents well past that in an unofficial capacity just like another nutjob Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzeziński.

ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'd love it if you could provide one example of me

justifying the empire

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@ItsMeMorgue Your entire tirade on my post is justifying the empire and making it all about you instead.

You made it clear all you care about is how you and the American public feel. The empire is a total non issue for you.

You are fine with it as long as it doesn't impact you personally.

ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

Your entire tirade on my post is justifying the empire...

Screenshot. One. Sentence.

Not what you interpret my dislike of Russia obliterating Ukraine to be.

Screenshot where I justified any empire. Anywhere.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@ItsMeMorgue I am not playing your childish games.

and again doubling down on hijacking the conversation with something that has nothing to do with the discussion proving my point.

And that war was started by the empire you run interference for.

Again, not playing your childish games.

Post anything even remotely relevant or get lost.

ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

I am not playing your childish games.

In other words, you can't do it, so you're just going to double down on the false accusations. Typical Russian disinformation campaign.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@ItsMeMorgue The only one playing games and making false accusations is you.

And yes. We know. Everything is a Russian conspiracy Corvis. Is Putin in the room with you now?

Do you still kiss your portrait of Joseph McCarthy before bed every night?

Again. Post something actually relevant or get lost. Really simple.

ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

The only one playing games and making false accusations is you.

Bring the evidence for your accusations, then.

But I think we both know you won't. You'll just call me a child for asking you to prove what you've accused me of.

Blah blah irrelevant comment addressed to @CorvusBlackthorne

Ignoring you. When you reply to me, talk to me.

Do you still kiss your portrait of Joseph McCarthy before bed every night?

Project much? We all know that's what you do with your portrait of Vlad the Invader.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@ItsMeMorgue Not my fault you outed yourself as a sock puppet account.

And it is not my fault you have actively chosen to be ignorant about Russia and Ukraine yet insist on mouthing off like you are an expert when you actively choose to ignore facts that don't match your feelings.

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CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

@ItsMeMorgue has asked me to help out, as she was dangerously close to losing her temper after your insensitive remark. Here are a few links. Do not return until you have looked at them.

https://similarworlds.com/personality/weird/5493662-My-friends-I-have-returned-And-I-have-a-revelation

https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Bigender

https://morethanone.info/

I trust this will help you to refrain from jamming your rather disgusting foot in your mouth in future.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@CorvusBlackthorne And now you continue to waste my time.

And using a gender identity to justify bullying someone with multiple accounts? Really? That is what you are going with?

And again. You don't get to make demands on my posts. Period.

CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

And now you continue to waste my time.

So you are saying that you have no intention of being civil to us.

And using a gender identity to justify bullying someone with multiple accounts?

As I previously stated, @ItsMeMorgue asked me to step in as she was about to lose her temper with you. She will return once she has regained her composure. This is hardly the same as "bullying with multiple accounts," but I hardly expect you to understand the subtleties of the situation, as you cannot even seem to grasp that it is inappropriate for a world leader to respond to a peace talk with a barrage of missiles.

And again. You don't get to make demands on my posts. Period.

I did not make the demand. She did. However, I would ask that you please refrain from intentionally misnaming any of us, however tempting it might be to poke the proverbial bear in a sad attempt to feel superior.

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