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So ICE killed another American.

It is said that the man killed was carrying a pistol and two full magazines. Someone said that the gun was planted on the man by ICE after the man was killed. Anyone have any insight?
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ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
We've been watching nothing but the news all day, and as far as I can tell, he did in fact have a gun, so they didn't need to use their drop gun in the truck to frame him. But he was legal for concealed carry, and he did not remove his weapon from its holster. One of the officers removed his weapon from him right before the shooting started.

He did not shoot. He did not brandish his weapon. He did nothing.

Meanwhile, the ICE officers were pistol whipping him, after pushing him around and shoving him to the ground.

And yet you will find people on this very forum who will call me a liar.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@ItsMeMorgue i see it similar to Renee Good. Maybe the mere presence of a gun combined with bravado and heightened emotion from having to deal with protesters made things feel worse than they were. Or maybe he wanted to shoot someone. Will we have body cam video here? Because the video we do have makes this seem like lethal aggression when there was no immediate threat.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@trollslayer Everybody the news was saying there was no body cam footage. The best we've got is people filming on their cell phones.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@ItsMeMorgue makes me wonder why not? If they are truly innocent police just enforcing the law, then a body cam would prove their innocence. Right now jt looks like a public execution.
I'll wait to see what Rachel Maddow, Mika, Joe, Whoopie, and Joy Behar have to say so I can get the "facts".
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@RoguishEyes Or you could try the videos.
@hippyjoe1955 Nah. The 5 aforementioned will all say the same things, and that is gospel enough for me.
American people insist! They vote for it, Congress increased the funding for that very killing- on Friday!
You're stuck with only two choices!
As a socialist I can't stop you! The bipartisan mainstream is so magnificently powerful that nothing shall live unless the mainstream allows! And it won't!
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@Roundandroundwego I've got a fun idea. Instead of being a sarcastic trоӏӏ all day, why don't you do something about it?
@ItsMeMorgue I always voted against this. It's obvious who's against it, and running for office, every November. American people need to move together to kick out the uniparty. Shutting me up won't change a thing! Y'all cool kids have your uniparty and we'll probably die in your war, whatever. You're the country! Not me, not us! You got this!
Trolls are the only ones to talk politics. I'm out, you're in! Coil kid.
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 Your previous bigotry is no longer acceptable in polite society.
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Docdon23 · M
he was carrying a cell phone...there apparently was a gun but he was not showing it or threatening anyone with it
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Docdon23 I listened to a video. There were about 10 shots fired into a man on the ground. That isn't self defence. That is murder.
Docdon23 · M
@hippyjoe1955 agree...horrible--we are better than this as a country, or need to be and should be
SW-User
Let's face it, both side here will see what they want to see.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SW-User You are right. The sighted will see a man get knocked over and jumped on and have his gun taken away and then shot 10 times as he lies on the ground by masked goons who can not be identified by any flag or name tag or badge. The other side will say "Nothing to see here folks move along".
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Virgo79 · 61-69, M
Only thing that comes to mind is, why would anyone go to a violent protest with a gun?
Unless , well, gonna use it
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Virgo79 The facts on the ground are that a unarmed man was shot 10 or 11 times at point blank range by ICE. The pistol the man was initially carrying had been removed from his person before he was shot.
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 umm, sounds strange.
Wonder why they would just pick one man out of everyone else to gun down?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Virgo79 [media=https://youtu.be/qjN73-gn90Q]
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@NativePortlander1970 He was holding a cell phone. Next time try to be a bit more informed. I am deleting your comment because of the misinformation you posted.

 
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