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The average US household has 6-figure debt. Should we be worried?



Photo above - are homeowners like this now the most dangerous people in America? What a long, strange trip it's been. (RIP, Bobby . . . )

I was alarmed when I read the link at bottom: “Average US household has six figure debt.” The media is predicting some sort of economic collapse driven by borrowing, of course. And car repo’s are going up somewhat. Higher loan rates and sticker price inflation tend to have that effect.

Then I pondered my own situation – I barely have 5 figure debt. Should I cheer? Oh wait, it’s because I don’t have a mortgage. THAT’S the difference between my debt and the folks whom the article is tsk-tsking about disapprovingly. The other guys own their homes. Oh my . . . someone is actually spinning that into biggest economic problem facing the nation?

This where some economic simpleton weighs in and says “it’s still a problem. Lots of people owned their homes in the past too, before average household debt peaked the mountaintop at over $100,000. This means things are worse than ever. We're all gonna die . . . "

Maybe. Or perhaps it just means houses are more expensive than ever. Boomers are selling off their lifelong homes, and downsizing. They are cashing out their equity and buying new homes - smaller, cheaper - sometimes mortgage free. Their former, expensive homes are being bought by millennials who are paying record prices, and record mortgage rates. For a 2,600 square foot colonial on a quarter acre lot. People who are purchase homes like that sometimes do have household debt beyond $400,000-$500,000.

This is why "the concept of “averages” flummoxes so many people. Let’s recall how averages work. Mr. Smith is a renter with a $20,000 car loan. Mr. Jones is homeowner with both a car loan and a $500,000 mortgage. The average household debt in this micro universe is $260,000. Is it about to collapse? Who is in worse shape? The renter or the homeowner?

Before you answer, let’s also recall that homes are (usually) a better path to expanding your net worth than investing in random corporate stocks, hoarding treasury bills, opening savings accounts, crypto currency, gold Krugerrands, or Desert Storm trading cards.

They’re not making any more land. Which is why Mad Vlad Putin covets Ukraine, and why Trump is talking loudly but carrying a tiny stick on Greenland. In the example above, Mr Jones owns real estate. He’s landed gentry. Everyone else, like me, is a tenant-cube farmer. We're the losers, relatively speaking.

I refuse to be intimidated by clickbait articles claiming the end is near because people are trying to buy homes, and sometimes succeeding. There are lot of things that could drive America’s collapse. Bitcoin speculation. AI stock bubble. Mobile gambling. $38 trillion in national debt. But probably not Mr. Jones, mowing his lawn on Saturday mornings, and driving his Honda Accord. He’s the least of my worries.

I’m just sayin’ . . .


The average US household has six-figure debt — should Americans be worried?
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
You have a pretty good grip on the situation as it applies to you. And lets get real. In the end its always about "us" more than its about "them." I will however throw in one small point for you to consider. Up to now Treasury bills have been considered literally as good as gold..In light of the current world position and Trumps posturing with the Fed, that may not always be the case.. Now consider the number of financial institutions, pension funds, 401K and college funds that contain T bills..
Just sayin'😷
exchrist · 36-40
I will read your full post soon but yes we should be worried. Excessive interest rates and economy based entirely on borrowing simply to survive ever increasing prices and lack of being taught self sufficiency. Those aspects of the situation alone are troubling enough;
Now add the ever increasing cost of living seemingly stagnant wage increases (given reciprocal taxation and increased government spending) and the addition of everything becoming subscription based. I still have antenna tv and a dvd player. Dial up internet and solar panels but the point stands.
I know how to fix all of it, but the legislature never will. Only more war.
exchrist · 36-40
My revised response includes that people are increasingly living within their means. Banks and investors don’t want that. Some big shot built a 5 million dollar house on a 2 acre lot near where I live it has sat with a for sale sign in front of it for almost 20 years. No “starter family” is ever going to buy that eye soar with a three car garage. The taxes alone would be a single persons yearly salary.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@exchrist i'm not sure what banks want (full disclosure - i am a past employee of US money center bank).

they do want people to borrow. especially big ticket items like homes and mortgages. credit cards are a mixed opportunity at best. nothing to repo if the customer stops paying.

one bank executive appeared before congress to justify his high "late payment fees". he stunned the senate by producing some sort of document proving that if everyone paid on time, and there was no late fee income, the banks would earn MUCH more money. Because there would be no defaults, repos, evictions, property rehabs, resales at a loss, and bankruptcies.

but that's not the world we live in.
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
During the 1970s my parent's modest 3- bedroom house had a mortgage payment of about $350/month. They bought the house in 1971 for $35,000.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@badminton my grandfather had a VA mortgage at 2%. the house cost $10,000. Zillow says its worth $295,000 today.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
American mortgage debt precipitated the last global financial crisis. Ultimately only the lenders know how sustainable that debt is.

Let us hope your banking industry is better regulated than it was in 2008.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman if i had to predict where the next financial crisis in america would begin (crypto, or mortgages on single family homes), what do you think my answer would be?
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@SusanInFlorida To summarise, loosened regulatory oversight and big financial institutions indulging in risky behaviour because they assumed they were "too big to fail" and would always be bailed out by government.

Responsibility ultimately (and mainly) lies with the lenders though. Government should not have to police every nook and cranny of the financial services industry. Mortgage lending is a necessary public service delegated by government to the private sector, not just a means for bankers to maximise profits. There needs to be a seachange in ethics (which the rise of cryptocurrency clearly shows is not happening).
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl The concept of "too big to fail" has fortunately been as exposed as trickle down economics. What it requires i the goodwill of others toward the vulnerable institution. Without the goodwill of those who have the power, anyone (I am looking as you America) is toast..😷
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
School loans should be added in too. Seriously, wages could be higher. When the economy tanks, as it does every ten years or so, things could get scarier.
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SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@wildbill83 @wildbill83 upvoted. i love those "rehab" and house flipper rehab shows. but the reality is that they are fueling home price inflation.

everyone thinks that repainting and a kitchen makeover will add $100,000 to a homes value. maybe Tarek and Christina are right though?
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AmericanAvenger · 56-60, M
the avg house costs 6 figures so I would imagine the avg household would be at east that much debt most of the time until the house is paid off
pdockal · 56-60, M
Anybody that owns a home is in high debt (which is manageable)
What's your point ?????
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