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Two things can be true at the same time, we need a secure border like Trump has given us and ICE is too heavy handed some 500 miles inland. And

That woman should not have been blocking the road in protest of ICE, should not have driven towards the ICE officer closing in on her from the front, also true is ICE did not need to shoot her and should have stepped out of the way instead.
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
I won’t comment on the minneapolis incident - I’ve done enough of that.

The reality is that there are people whom the court has ordered out but are still here. There needs to be a federal agency authorized to deal with that. Otherwise, why have courts and laws?

Right now that authority is ICE or Border Patrol. Whether you agree or disagree with their tactics, they exist for the purpose i mentioned above.

Abolish ICE? Fine. Then you either need to delegate the authority to deal with the above issue to someone else, or ignore the issue.

Personally, I don’t want to ignore the issue, and I think I am in the majority on this. Personally, I think vilifying ICE as a whole is an un winnable strategy at the moment, and the best way to protect the rights of citizens and non citizens alike would be for local jurisdictions to work with them to ensure they operate in lawful ways (such as sharing of information, coordination strategies, etc). Otherwise, they do what the F they want violently and right now there is not much people can do stop it without making things worse.
BohoBabe · M
The border was more secure under Biden.
She wasn't driving towards the ICE officer, which is clear from the video.

One of the main reasons America ended up with Fascism is the endless bothsidesing of media like CNN. The truth isn't always somewhere in the middle, sometimes one side is just completely wrong and knows it.
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
She hit one and drive towards the other one and hit him, they released the body cam footage, had she followed directions in the first place she would be at home with her wife and not at the morgue
PatKirby · M
@Prison1203

She eagerly FAFO'd, so looks like she was just dying to get in there.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@Prison1203 She made a bad decision
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@nudistsueaz the worst one of her life
@Mudkip says
She chose violence instead.
Renee Nicole Good was told to leave; she started a K-turn to leave, then masked agents started yelling other orders while cursing.

Jonathan Ross was clear of the vehicle when he opened fire. Reuters has a second-by-second timeline with video frames. Notice how Jonathan Ross is fully clear of the vehicle before firing his first shot (3rd frame).




https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-TRUMP/MINNESOTA-RECONSTRUCT/egvbbeqeevq/

@jshm2
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Mudkip · 31-35, M
@ElwoodBlues oh look, you managed to work your way with adding a video from a tiktok reel of all sources. We all know the outcome, and I can't stress this enough. I'm glad the agent will make a full recovery, lively, full and well. God is good 😁
@Mudkip says
We all know the outcome,
The video I linked above, a clip from ABC News, clearly shows a healthy murderous Jonathan Ross striding briskly after the car after killing the driver.

All we know is that the gullible, such as yourself, have swallowed some bait laid out by all hat no clue Kristi Noem.


Oh, and we all know CBS was recently purchased with billionaire tRump supporter Larry Ellison's money and has become a conduit of lies.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
If she wanted to still be here, she just needed to follow instructions.
WestonTexan · 18-21, M
Nah. I’m not “both-sidesing” this is into meaninglessness.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
There were so many easier, quicker and cheaper ways to handle illegal immigration. But of course, they dont create a nice cheap labor supply for corporate America to keep overall wages down..😷
A secure border or obvious force projection? American people don't allow actual safety. So I imagine your "secure" border causes deaths and hate and war! Open borders were safe!
You're aiming to kill. Security is killing.
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WestonTexan · 18-21, M
@BohoBabe MAGA really likes the taste of boot. They like “law and order”, as long it’s a weapon used against people they already dislike.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Mudkip So you simply made up those claims, based on nothing at all? Based on... convenience?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@WestonTexan Identifying the people MAGA dislike is easy - it's anyone who isn't like them.

We've seen that, and its consequences, before.

americans are about to see it in their own neighbourhoods.
houseonfire · 56-60, M
@Elessar I guess you are right one could easily be confused so many car jackers walk up to your car at a police raid wearing a green uniform with Neon that says ICE or PORDER PATROL, HOMELANS SECURITY. Plus it is really hard to identify the ice agents that you have followed all day, blocking their right and screaming at them. You are right them wearing mask makes it so hard to tell who's the bad guy.
swirlie · 31-35
Apart from all those little distractions on the street, how do you like America so far, President Maduro? You should feel at home now, considering everything in America is the same as it is Caracas, right?

 
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