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Is the American left complicit in the death of Renee Goode?

The shreiking American left has been suspiciously quiet on the death of this poor woman. They have encited people like this to protest about EVERYTHING and look what happens.

The moronic keffiyeh wearing students screamed for global intifada, for example, encouraged by the left. And look what happened. Slaughter on Bondi beach.....
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Just the opposite.

Officer Jonathan Ross released his own video from his phone. This is proof that his attention was on the video he was making rather than on the vehicle he walked in front of. Making videos with your own phone is NOT part of the job description of an ICE agent.

Officer Jonathan Ross didn't begin firing his weapon at Renee Nicole Good until he was out of the path of the vehicle. He shot a fleeing "suspect." This is against ICE rules and policy. Here's the 110 page ICE Firearms and Use of Force Handbook
https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal%20Government/ID255426897069329047495080324203699905714/2.2.1_Attachment%2021%20-%20ICE%20Firearms%20and%20Use%20of%20Force%20Directive%20and%20Handbook.pdf

Page 12 includes the following:
4) Deadly force is not authorized solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. Deadly force against a fleeing subject is only authorized if there is probable cause to believe that the escape of the suspect would pose an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or another person.

Also, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) guidance—specifically, 2014 ICE/Border Patrol use-of-force policies—
“It should be recognized that a half-ounce (200-grain) bullet is unlikely to stop a 4,000-pound moving vehicle, and if the driver … is disabled by a bullet, the vehicle will become a totally unguided threat,” it says. “Obviously, shooting at a moving vehicle can pose a risk to bystanders including other agents.”
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227-story.html

What Officer Jonathan Ross did while filming his video is an example of a law enforcement pattern known as "officer created jeopardy," which is way too common in vehicle stops. It involves an officer intentionally stepping in front of a moving vehicle to create an excuse for deadly force. It's been affirmed as a defense for drivers in SCOTUS Barnes v. Felix 2025.

This pattern is why the DoJ's own use-of-force policy says that agents may not fire at a moving car that is threatening them unless “no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.”

In this case, Officer Jonathan Ross stepped out of the path of the moving vehicle -- the EXACT means of defense the DoJ cites -- and after defending himself, fired three shots as the vehicle was passing by.
@PeterByres55UK Imagine launching an ad hominem fallacy when the facts refute your claims.

@PeterByres55UK Yeah. Challenging one’s position by listening to another’s opinion is boring if you can’t hear anybody but yourself.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
First, an ice agent of 25 years even said that ice was wrong on the murder of Renee Goode. So why can't you just say it? You gotta argue or make a point.

Secondly:

The shreiking American left has been suspiciously quiet on the death of this poor woman. They have encited people like this to protest about EVERYTHING and look what happens.

This makes no sense because 2,000 people came out to protest in MN as well as large scale protests in most of every city. But at the same time it doesn't make sense primarily because you don't know anyone politics on the street. Those 2,000 people likely had a mix of views from democrats, leftist to maybe moderate Republicans even. How would you know? This doesn't make much sense.

Furthermore, nearly every leftist channel is talking about it.

The moronic keffiyeh wearing students screamed for global intifada, for example, encouraged by the left. And look what happened. Slaughter on Bondi beach.....

So you're saying some slaughter on some beach excuses Renee Goode's murder how exactly?

You seem like you got something to prove, this means you're trying to lie
WestonTexan · 18-21, M
Bait 🥱
SumKindaMunster · 56-60, M
In general, no.

Specifically, I do believe that pundits and other democrat leaders should NOT be encouraging people to document and harass ICE. They should know better and I hope some of them get sued.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@SumKindaMunster in the days of cell phone cameras, dashcams, door bell cams, renegade gotcha journalism, and tic toc, this seems to be the common MO. No different than when folks were encouraged to video polling places and ballot counting. No different than an ICE agent filming with his own personal phone rather than doing his job.

I think telling people to not film or document is fundamentally un American. Remember, the whole stink about the Somali daycare came about from a rogue journalist’s film. But I think it is reasonable to instruct people that documenting and filming is important, but discourage them from interfering people from doing their lawful jobs, and that the evidence they gather is may be more valuable than encouraging chaos and possibly endangering the lives of others.
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
The guilt is completely with ICE and the Trump administration. They murdered an unarmed woman. They invented a phony excuse that she tried to run them over with her car. Lies. She was trying to drive away when an ICE thug put his gun into her window and shot her in the face.

There will be a reckoning.
Adrift · 61-69, F
@badminton Its certainly gives people like you something to feed off of doesn't it?
What American left? You have a right wing party, the Republicans,
and you have a center right party, the Democrats,
You have excluded socialists, greens and commies, so there's no left.
Why pretend? What's your target?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Good grief. The IQ of this forum just dropped a notch.
PeterByres55UK · 56-60, MNew
@trollslayer There is no IQ in this forum from what i can see.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Connecting these two incidents is a real stretch....😷
GermanAf · 26-30, M
troll bot or troll farm.... that is the question
PeterByres55UK · 56-60, MNew
@GermanAf Oh, we have a Shakespeare scholar...not
GermanAf · 26-30, M
@PeterByres55UK I'm just a humble troll. Old school style. Starting to think you are too!
Forgive me for assuming you are trolling professionally!
PeterByres55UK · 56-60, MNew
@GermanAf Rumbled!
romell · 51-55, M
Didn't you see the video ..are you blind n demented?
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