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Trump Orders Greenland Invasion Plans from Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC).


Military leaders are resisting since it would be an illegal order. Congress already has passed legislation preventing Trump from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO.

Trump's real goal is the destruction of NATO.

Not mining minerals (a trade treaty with Denmark could accomplish that). Not defending Greenland from Russia aggression (Denmark is part of NATO; an attack by Russia would lead to Article 5 being invoked).

We have a MAGA in the White House: a Moscow Agent Governing America.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15452323/Donald-Trump-orders-army-chiefs-plan-invade-Greenland-President.html
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Unfortunately Trump doesn't have to withdrawal from NATO. And Congress won't, nor can, limit the executive orders. That will allow him to start the "military action", which would violate the NATO treaty.

Sixty days would be more than enough, under the war powers act even to force the issue. It's still a violation of the NATO agreement.

You want to force the issue of changing the war powers resolution? 🤷🏻‍♂

Right! Give this supreme Court a say in the constitutionality of that law! Trump will love you for it!

It seems you have some significant concerns about military action, executive power, and NATO obligations, especially in relation to the War Powers Act. Let’s break down some of the points you’ve raised:

NATO and Military Action

NATO is a defensive alliance, and any military action initiated must comply with the treaty obligations. Concerns regarding a president disregarding these obligations are valid, especially if action is taken without congressional approval.

War Powers Act

The War Powers Act aims to check the president's power to commit U.S. forces to armed conflict without congressional consent. While the president can act in emergencies, they are meant to notify Congress within 48 hours, and military action should generally cease after 60 days without approval unless Congress authorizes it.

Changing the War Powers Resolution

The idea of changing the War Powers Resolution is complex. Any modification must balance the need for swift action in crises with the necessity of legislative oversight.

Supreme Court's Role

If any changes were made to the War Powers Resolution, it’s likely that legal challenges would ensue, and the Supreme Court could be called to determine the constitutionality of those changes. This could create a contentious situation regarding the separation of powers.

Your perspective on Trump potentially benefiting from such a situation reflects wider concerns about executive power and checks and balances in government.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero Sorry I simply don't follow any professional sports.

I really don't like the capitalism it represents.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer

Given all the league-imposed revenue sharing, salary caps (in some sports) and luxury taxes, it's more like corporate sponsored socialism. 😜
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero Nor a fan of corporations, nor the parts of the 14th amendment that give corporations rights!

One follows the next.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Trupm reportedly said he wants Greenland because he thinks China or Russia will if the USA does not - without real evidence for that - and he does not want either of those as a neighbour. Understandably, although is attitude to Russia is vague and ambivalent.


Has he ever looked at a map?

Physically, Greenland neighbours Canada, not the USA.

Russia is very close to the American state of Alaska, as the Bering Strait narrows to only about seventy miles; although that far North-Eastern part of Russia is very remote and sparsely populated.

China is a very long way to the South-East of the region.

Such distances would make no difference to any war conducted by missiles and the Internet anyway.


I wondered what Trump would gain from wrecking NATO - apart from the freedom to take over NATO nations by either force or political / economic means. He is already pulling the USA out of many international agreements and organisations, an action of no benefit to America. He has also publicly admitted his disdain for international law and even morality.

He seems to have very self-contadictory international ambitions encompassing both isolation with intense nationlism, and old-fashioned imperialism.

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On the matter of geographical neighbourliness, we have this recent curiosity...

A senior Russian politician (Finance Minister I think) and an American business tycoon, Elon Musk, talked about a railway bridge or tunnel connecting Russia and Alaska. This is not a new idea at all, but is so impracticable for major technical and financial reasons, never mind politics, that one wonders why they even talked about it. It appears to have been a purely informal discussion though, hardly reported, and I don't though know the outcome. However there does exist a company or organisation that does propose building such a tunnel!
Julien · 36-40, M
This means direct conflict with the EU and I know on wich side I’m on

 
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