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Goodbye electric VW ID Buzz. You died so young, and we wanted you so much.



Photo above - VW's "ID Buzz" poses for a portrait outside of some rich guy's mansion. Production was cancelled this week because most people can't afford to buy it.

Okay, the first hint that things weren’t going well at VW was the ID Buzz unveiling in 2017 at the North American Auto Show. It took another 8 years for the 2025 model to begin arriving. Now it’s completely cancelled, after 1 year. (see MSN link below). In the meantime, VW had to pay a gazillion dollar fine to the EPA for deliberately faking it's diesel emission tests.

Although the headline says it costs $60,000, most of the early ID Buzz deliveries were in the $72-$75K range. Maybe higher if the dealer applied a markup to the sticker (“We only have the one in stock. Act now . . . it might be gone tomorrow . . . “)

It certainly IS a cute vehicle. Two tone paint, just like the $2,500 original decades ago. Gorgeous interior. Lotsa windows. But let's talk about the limited range, and long recharge times. Well, those are handicaps should have been expected. The other VW BEV (ID3) has the same problems. Well, we can’t expect EVERYONE to make great cars, right? And there was no point in VW waiting longer to bring the ID Buzz to America while trying to fix it's shortcomings. The ID Buzz wasn’t going to get any cheaper if VW waited, and minivans from competitors with more practicality and lower prices were showing up.

And there’s the missing $7,500 EV rebate. Did that hurt sales? Probably not, because the ID Buzz is totally manufactured and assembled in Europe, it NEVER qualified under Biden’s rules, let alone Trump’s. Which makes a $75,000 “well equipped” sticker all the more of a shock.

I’m rewatching “The Wire” as I write this. An episode where drug kingpin Stringer Bell is taking business courses at a community college. The professor engages Stringer in a dialogue about product quality, market saturation, and competitors. It’s clear that whoever at VW was managing the 8 yearlong ID Buzz project never took a community college course on these things.

I’m just sayin’ . . .


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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Vehicles that use batteries as fuel tanks will be obsolete soon. Fun idea but in no way practical. Short range, long charge times, battery degeneration leading to huge expenses when the battery dies. Some insurance companies won't even cover them. Electric vehicles are a sign of government hubris not practical engineering.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@GerOttman Yeah hydrogen has many many problems including building tanks to hold it. It makes steel brittle as the hydrogen atoms simply go between the steel atoms and escape into the atmosphere. What nobody wants to address is how little damage and now much good the standard ICE vehicle is doing for plant life. Plants need CO2. Go to a greenhouse and watch as they generate CO2 and put it into the green house because CO2 is plant food.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@hippyjoe1955 a company has applied for a permit to build an indoor marijuana "grow farm" in our county (outside the city limits). Part of the permit involves the use of compressed C02 (carbon dioxide) to speed up the growth process.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida Yes according to Dr Patrick Moore co-founder of Greenpeace the world needs more CO2 not less. The planet has stored vast quantities of it in coral and limestone and coal of the years of its existence which means it is running low. Plants need it as do animals which eat the plants.
GerOttman · 70-79, M

Looks like someone's gonna have a classic!
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 That almost never happens....
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@GerOttman It happens a lot more often than you are led to believe. I know I wouldn't want to live in a complex that had underground parking for EVs. I watched the firefighters battling a battery fire in a Chevy volt. That was a long and costly battle. I saw a ICE vehicle's engine catch fire. The fire department showed up squirted it with an ABC fire extinguisher and left. Time on scene? About 10 minutes. Time on the EV fire? About 4 hours.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 okay, thanks!
ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M
Buzz GTX in Cherry Red.
The powertrain delivers 250kW of power, allowing it to go from 0-100km/h in 6.5 seconds.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ShenaniganFoodie not on my short list of my own minivan must haves.
ShenaniganFoodie · 36-40, M

 
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