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Diesel 18 wheelers are officially dead. Tesla electric semi has 500 mile range and about half the fuel cost.



Guess what a diesel 18 wheeler semi (the tractor/cab) stickers for? $150,00 on average. They can go as high as $250,000. You can get a basic brand X model for $90,000, but those have the worst fuel economy and other drawbacks. What’s the MPG for the good ones? 6.5 mpg. That’s if you know how to use all the gears. Some have 20 gears and that gets you better mileage. Don’t ride the clutch!

Diesel fuel costs $3.70 per gallon. (It was $4.99 a gallon in 2022). To go 500 miles in a diesel semi you'd use 77 gallons and it would cost you close to $300. Ask for a credit limit increase on your Visa card, if you’re going across country.

DHL (shipping company, like Fed Ex and UPS) tested a Tesla semi for a couple of weeks. (see link at bottom). It needed 2KwH per mile. Electricity costs 20 cents per KwH (on average – some public chargers rip you off for double or triple). So it costs 40 cents per mile in a Tesla semi, $200 to go the same 500 miles. Let me repeat that – fuel costs are cut by 1/3.

Tesla might about to win the commercial/semi-truck lottery here. Good thing, because nobody wants their dumpster styled cyberpunk truck. Tesla’s share price has bizarrely doubled (from $250 to nearly $500) in the past 9 months, amidst falling sales of its consumer vehicles. Investment analysts are evidently betting the farm on Tesla’s new semi.

There are only two potential problems. You can’t top off these mammoths at a Wawa public charger. You need dedicated chargers at your fleet lot. Or at truck stops.

The other is capital investment. It costs $150,000 to put a Tesla semi on the road. And they are going to be better on local trips, not long-haul "one lap of America" runs, where the energy recovered from braking is minimal. But still, if you’re a fleet operator considering a diesel engine with 16 cylinders, vs an electric motor, which one scares you the most about future breakdowns, maintenance, and repairs?

I’m just sayin’ . . .



DHL took a Tesla electric semi for a test drive and it was left shocked by the outcome
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TexChik · F
The electrical grid can not support charging a fleet of electric semis. Thus, diesel-powered generators will still be necessary, at approximately the same fuel consumption rate. How long does it take to recharge? What if it's extremely hot or cold where the load needs to go? How far can the EV travel then? How much longer will it take to ship a load cross-country (in the US)? Time is money. Long-haul drivers operate in teams; while one driver sleeps, the other can drive to deliver the load promptly. EV passenger cars are expensive. A Tesla cyber Truck costs up to $115,000.00, the batteries cost $45,000 each. I would believe that a cyber truck capable of pulling heavy loads would cost 2-3 times that as well as the battery costs. Being cheaper than a diesel truck is not likely. Charging stations cost Billions under Biden, so where is the savings?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@TexChik When they start selling lectricity by the gallon I'll start paying attention to that bullschiff
TexChik · F
@sunsporter1649 It sounds good on paper when you leave out all the details and overlook all of the lies. EVs are not viable as the primary source of transportation. Sure, they are great for tooling around town, but who has the money for a hobby car and then an internal combustion vehicle for the real world?