ElwoodBlues · M
Libya 2011 was authorized by the UN Security Council resolution authorizing force to protect civilians.
Pakistan was covered by Congress' 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) empowered the President to use "all necessary and appropriate force" against those who planned, authorized, or committed the attacks, or harbored such individuals or organizations. Had you forgotten that it was in Pakistan that we found and killed Bin Laden??
U.S. didn't bomb Yemen; the Saudis did.
In Somalia, airstrikes against the Shabab militants was authorized by the 2001 AUMF, see above.
In Iraq and Syria, Congress approved a bill to train and arm moderate Syrian rebels and to oppose ISIS in Sept 2014. Protecting the people we're arming and training is part of the scope of the mission.
Now perhaps you can tell us: under what authorization is Tяump bombing non-combatant ships in the Caribbean??
Pakistan was covered by Congress' 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) empowered the President to use "all necessary and appropriate force" against those who planned, authorized, or committed the attacks, or harbored such individuals or organizations. Had you forgotten that it was in Pakistan that we found and killed Bin Laden??
U.S. didn't bomb Yemen; the Saudis did.
In Somalia, airstrikes against the Shabab militants was authorized by the 2001 AUMF, see above.
In Iraq and Syria, Congress approved a bill to train and arm moderate Syrian rebels and to oppose ISIS in Sept 2014. Protecting the people we're arming and training is part of the scope of the mission.
Now perhaps you can tell us: under what authorization is Tяump bombing non-combatant ships in the Caribbean??
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues I don't think ISIL was involved. I do know that things got worse after Gaddafi was overthrown.
The Current Power Struggle in Libya: An Irreconcilable Divide
Thirteen years after Gaddafi’s fall, Libya is no longer a functioning state but a fragmented battleground where two irreconcilable factions impose their own order, each backed by foreign patrons with conflicting interests.
The Current Power Struggle in Libya: An Irreconcilable Divide
Thirteen years after Gaddafi’s fall, Libya is no longer a functioning state but a fragmented battleground where two irreconcilable factions impose their own order, each backed by foreign patrons with conflicting interests.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Libya Remains Unstable Nearly A Decade After Muammar Gaddafi's Ousting
June 27, 20218:00 AM ET
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NPR's Lulu Garcia-Navarro talks with Professor Mansour El-Kikhia about Libya, where elections are called for but are unlikely to bring stability to the country.
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It's been nearly a decade since the U.S.-backed ousting of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, and conditions in the country have gotten worse and more complicated. The U.N.-backed government in the capital of Tripoli has very loose control over about a third of the country. To the east, Libya is controlled by a renegade general leading what they have called the Libyan National Army, which has tried and failed to topple the government in Tripoli.
June 27, 20218:00 AM ET
Heard on Weekend Edition Sunday
NPR's Lulu Garcia-Navarro talks with Professor Mansour El-Kikhia about Libya, where elections are called for but are unlikely to bring stability to the country.
Sponsor Message
LULU GARCIA-NAVARRO, HOST:
It's been nearly a decade since the U.S.-backed ousting of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, and conditions in the country have gotten worse and more complicated. The U.N.-backed government in the capital of Tripoli has very loose control over about a third of the country. To the east, Libya is controlled by a renegade general leading what they have called the Libyan National Army, which has tried and failed to topple the government in Tripoli.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
are you saying he was a Muslim .. its a bit telling about you
Ayatollah ("Sign of God") is a high-ranking cleric in Twelver Shia Islam, a title denoting great religious scholarship and authority, with the most esteemed being Grand Ayatollahs (Ayatollah al-Uzma), who serve as sources of emulation (Marja') for followers, with prominent figures like Iran's current Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and Ruhollah Khomeini (architect of Iran's Islamic Revolution) holding this rank. While once rare, the title became more common after the 1979 Iranian Revolution, eventually expanding to include many established scholars and graduates of final clerical exams.
Ayatollah ("Sign of God") is a high-ranking cleric in Twelver Shia Islam, a title denoting great religious scholarship and authority, with the most esteemed being Grand Ayatollahs (Ayatollah al-Uzma), who serve as sources of emulation (Marja') for followers, with prominent figures like Iran's current Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and Ruhollah Khomeini (architect of Iran's Islamic Revolution) holding this rank. While once rare, the title became more common after the 1979 Iranian Revolution, eventually expanding to include many established scholars and graduates of final clerical exams.
Nanoose · 70-79, M
There is a world of difference between the way Obama dropped bombs and the way Trump dropped bombs. There is also a world of difference between the number of American allies Trump threatened to attack and the number of American allies Obama threatened to attack. Trump even threatened to invade Canada.
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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Nanoose Obama assassinated a boy, a US citizen.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Americans war! No question. Two parties! War to the end.
If anyone but me personally actually objected, you'd be loudly upset! You'd be righteously angry! You'd call out the uniparty. Nope.
If anyone but me personally actually objected, you'd be loudly upset! You'd be righteously angry! You'd call out the uniparty. Nope.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@Roundandroundwego That's probably why President Trump ran afoul of the NeoCon Bush/Cheney sector of the Republican Party. He's the first PEACE PRESIDENT in history.
The LAST thing President Trump wants, being an international businessman who sees the world from a unique place is the destruction of war.
The LAST thing President Trump wants, being an international businessman who sees the world from a unique place is the destruction of war.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Reason10 that's fiction.
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acpguy · C
Don't forget the family in a van that he had given the order to kill along with all the collateral deaths from all the bombing. At least Trump has limited his hits on just the bad guys.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
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ElwoodBlues · M
@Reason10 After 9/11, Congress' 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) empowered the President to use "all necessary and appropriate force" against those who planned, authorized, or committed the attacks, or harbored such individuals or organizations.
I'm glad to hear that you will not attack Trump over such things.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Reason10 After 9/11, Congress' 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) empowered the President to use "all necessary and appropriate force" against those who planned, authorized, or committed the attacks, or harbored such individuals or organizations.
I'm glad to hear that you will not attack Trump over such things.
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