DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
When you allow brainwashing in the media (commercials), why wouldn't you allow tracking in the government?
Please, this isn't just this administration that is pushing it. Why do you think real ID was pushed in both the Obama and Biden administration?
To track you!
Yet anyone that supports any of this is just as wrong.
AI analysis just on my statement...
Please, this isn't just this administration that is pushing it. Why do you think real ID was pushed in both the Obama and Biden administration?
To track you!
Yet anyone that supports any of this is just as wrong.
AI analysis just on my statement...
The concerns about tracking by both media and government institutions raise significant ethical and privacy issues that are worth exploring.
Tracking in Media vs. Government
Media Influence and Brainwashing
Media, particularly commercials, often utilize persuasive techniques to influence consumer behavior. This can be seen as a form of "brainwashing," where repeated exposure to certain messages can shape perceptions and decisions. Many argue that this leads to manipulation and an erosion of critical thinking among the public.
Government Tracking and Privacy Concerns
On the other hand, government tracking, such as through initiatives like Real ID, raises alarms about personal privacy and civil liberties. Proponents of such systems argue they enhance security and efficiency, particularly in an interconnected world where databases can streamline identification processes. Critics, however, view these measures as invasive and indicative of a surveillance state that can monitor citizens' movements and actions.
The Push for Real ID
The Real ID Act, initiated under the Bush Administration and reinforced by subsequent administrations, aims to create standardized identification. The rationale includes:
Increased Security: Meant to address vulnerabilities in identity verification, especially after events like 9/11.
Interoperability: Simplifies interactions between different state systems and provides a uniform approach to identification.
However, many view it as an excuse to track individuals more closely.
Shared Concerns Across Administrations
The fact that both Obama and Biden administrations have supported these initiatives can signify a bipartisan recognition of perceived security needs. Still, this does not negate the concerns about personal liberty; rather, it highlights how varying administrations may prioritize security over privacy, often leading to conflict among civil rights advocates.
The criticism around supporting both commercial and government tracking highlights an important dialogue about the balance between security, convenience, and personal freedom. Engaging in such discussions is crucial, especially in a democratic society where individual rights are foundational.
Tracking in Media vs. Government
Media Influence and Brainwashing
Media, particularly commercials, often utilize persuasive techniques to influence consumer behavior. This can be seen as a form of "brainwashing," where repeated exposure to certain messages can shape perceptions and decisions. Many argue that this leads to manipulation and an erosion of critical thinking among the public.
Government Tracking and Privacy Concerns
On the other hand, government tracking, such as through initiatives like Real ID, raises alarms about personal privacy and civil liberties. Proponents of such systems argue they enhance security and efficiency, particularly in an interconnected world where databases can streamline identification processes. Critics, however, view these measures as invasive and indicative of a surveillance state that can monitor citizens' movements and actions.
The Push for Real ID
The Real ID Act, initiated under the Bush Administration and reinforced by subsequent administrations, aims to create standardized identification. The rationale includes:
Increased Security: Meant to address vulnerabilities in identity verification, especially after events like 9/11.
Interoperability: Simplifies interactions between different state systems and provides a uniform approach to identification.
However, many view it as an excuse to track individuals more closely.
Shared Concerns Across Administrations
The fact that both Obama and Biden administrations have supported these initiatives can signify a bipartisan recognition of perceived security needs. Still, this does not negate the concerns about personal liberty; rather, it highlights how varying administrations may prioritize security over privacy, often leading to conflict among civil rights advocates.
The criticism around supporting both commercial and government tracking highlights an important dialogue about the balance between security, convenience, and personal freedom. Engaging in such discussions is crucial, especially in a democratic society where individual rights are foundational.
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@BohoBabe My point is that it only follows the same reasoning.
They find this a logical next step. The consequences never matter to them. Hence the arrests.
Heck, even the way ICE treats people. No ID on your person , you're arrested.
They find this a logical next step. The consequences never matter to them. Hence the arrests.
Heck, even the way ICE treats people. No ID on your person , you're arrested.
BohoBabe · M
@DeWayfarer IDK if I'd go that far, but Obama continuing the NSA spying that started under Bush definitely didn't help, since it normalized spying without a good reason.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@BohoBabe I do because of the voting situation currently. They are forcing the ID issue especially there.
It's a all inclusive thing.
Know how you vote, you are going to get harassed, at minimum.
Think how this done commercially with spam. They are sending me even democratic spam. And text messages.
I'm pretty good at reporting and filtering spam. For over thirty years I have had the same email accounts.
What good is reporting and filtering if they know your ID and impossible to duplicate? 🤷🏻♂
It's a all inclusive thing.
Know how you vote, you are going to get harassed, at minimum.
Think how this done commercially with spam. They are sending me even democratic spam. And text messages.
I'm pretty good at reporting and filtering spam. For over thirty years I have had the same email accounts.
What good is reporting and filtering if they know your ID and impossible to duplicate? 🤷🏻♂
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Essentially then, any report from any organisation, not approved by the White House.
I did watch that video but learnt nothing because the interviewee - I assume a reporter - was gabbling too quickly for me to follow, and the piece was interrupted by the unecessary report from Moscow Airport.
(It is relevant to know that the President is returning home, the airport scenes are not.)
I did watch that video but learnt nothing because the interviewee - I assume a reporter - was gabbling too quickly for me to follow, and the piece was interrupted by the unecessary report from Moscow Airport.
(It is relevant to know that the President is returning home, the airport scenes are not.)
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
That's normal for Americans. They don't want a left and outlawed Communism long ago! They're not going to look back.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@markinkansas FDR helped change things a little because communists threatened to change things much more. Those communists were eliminated in the cold war - Americans have no left in politics ever since! And no way to understand that's fascist.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@Roundandroundwego hard-right critics in the 1930s claimed that Roosevelt was either a state socialist or a communist, and yet the battle goes on.. you are right or left .. and to be fair all of us are a bit of both.. we agree on 80% of all things.. may we live in interesting times
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markinkansas · 61-69, M
ORWELL was ahead of his time [media=https://youtu.be/SQ8l6HSCWBw]Orwell 2+2=5
ElwoodBlues · M
What will you do if we let you go home,
And the plastic's all melted,
And so is the chrome?
WHO ARE THE BRAIN POLICE?
[media=https://youtu.be/DuABc9ZNtrA?t=5]
And the plastic's all melted,
And so is the chrome?
WHO ARE THE BRAIN POLICE?
[media=https://youtu.be/DuABc9ZNtrA?t=5]
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Yes! Just who are they? Yet the answer is clear.
As Zappa points out: We are our own worst enemies. We make zombies of ourselves.
Note worthy: AI didn't point out the zombie voices in this song. It only focused on the lyrics and Zappa's own views.
As Zappa points out: We are our own worst enemies. We make zombies of ourselves.
Analysis of the Lyrics and Context
The lines you've quoted are from Frank Zappa's song "Who Are the Brain Police?" This song critiques societal norms and the conformity that can turn individuals into "zombies," lacking critical thought or individuality.
Themes in Zappa's Work
Frank Zappa often tackled complex societal issues, questioning authority and the collective mindset of society. In this context, the "Brain Police" can be interpreted as a metaphor for those societal forces that enforce conformity and suppress individuality.
Interpretation of the Conversation
You mentioned that "we are our own worst enemies." This aligns with Zappa's message, pointing out that often individuals might impose limitations on themselves. The reference to "zombies" suggests a loss of consciousness or awareness, making one susceptible to external influences.
Zappa's work encourages listeners to think critically and resist societal pressures. It speaks to the importance of self-awareness and the courage to think independently.
The lines you've quoted are from Frank Zappa's song "Who Are the Brain Police?" This song critiques societal norms and the conformity that can turn individuals into "zombies," lacking critical thought or individuality.
Themes in Zappa's Work
Frank Zappa often tackled complex societal issues, questioning authority and the collective mindset of society. In this context, the "Brain Police" can be interpreted as a metaphor for those societal forces that enforce conformity and suppress individuality.
Interpretation of the Conversation
You mentioned that "we are our own worst enemies." This aligns with Zappa's message, pointing out that often individuals might impose limitations on themselves. The reference to "zombies" suggests a loss of consciousness or awareness, making one susceptible to external influences.
Zappa's work encourages listeners to think critically and resist societal pressures. It speaks to the importance of self-awareness and the courage to think independently.
Note worthy: AI didn't point out the zombie voices in this song. It only focused on the lyrics and Zappa's own views.
SomeMichGuy · M
DJT wabts to legalize HIS biases
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markinkansas · 61-69, M
@jshm2 The most profound similarity between Trump's America and China is the crackdown on free speech.









