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Controversial question about protesting.

I applaud the idea that we are protesting authoritarianism in this country but is peaceful protesting enough? At some point don't the farmers have to stand outside Tom Emmer's door in Delano holding torches and pitchforks? It doesn't seem to me that tweating is going to make these guys change their vote or get the Epstein files released. Filing lawsuits only to have them appealed up to a stacked supreme court seems to be a waste of time. They just ignore any verdict against them anyway. Who's going to enforce it? Lawsuits take a lot of time and money. Are we just waiting for Trump to die from old age? What about the next guy? Is this country going to be fixed by wearing $50 inflatable frog suits from Walmart? Really?! That sounds like a new bloodless french revolution.
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dancingtongue · 80-89, M
We seem to have lost sight in this country that the right of free assemblage to protest the government is a Constitutional right, and done peacefully and non-violently, can be effective. The '60s were not just about drugs and communes: Martin Luther King's Civil Rights Movement protests brought major legislative changes against segregation; anti-war protests led to our leaving Vietnam, the end of mandatory ROTC, the military draft, and reduction of the age of voting from 21 to 18.

The danger in mass protests always is the opportunity for opponents to infiltrate, create violence, and blame it on the bulk of the protesters. As Hitler so effectively did, including setting fire to the Bundestag and blaming it on the Communists. King learned from Gandhi, that you have to have an infrastructure for non-violent protests, including training and monitors, to make sure the only violence that occurs comes from uniformed authorities, and you out anyone who infiltrates your peaceful protests and engages in vi0olent acts.

We are beginning to see more of that organization and philosophy coming into play. The organizers of the protest at the Coast Guard Station in Alameda, California, where federalized National Guard from other states was being marshalled were quick to step forward and disown the U-Haul Driver who attempted to break the base security checkpoint. The massive Bay Area turnout protests for No Kings Day had had extensive non-violent training and monitors set up to quickly curtail any signs of violence or infiltrators.

The success of non-violent protests is still as Gandhi and King preached: make sure any violence is done by the uniformed agents of those in power. That said, I don't see the value of the torches and pitchforks, nor -- as one who lived in Delano -- why you would be looking for Tom Emmer there when he is from Minnesota.
BlueVeins · 26-30
Holding a big ass protest undermines Trump's claim to being a popular President, which is a claim on which he stakes a lot of his credibility. Having big protests like this also helps uphold the right to protest. If people protest more, it becomes more socially accepted and if Trump goes after protesters then, he faces more backlash.

These protests won't improve Trump's behavior on their own. They won't depose him from power, or turn the Republicans against him, or anything. If the Republicans fall from power, it'll probably be a death from one thousand cuts and this will be one of them. No government can survive without, at the very least, the begrudging passivity of its people.
Northwest · M
This is an interesting situation. Center and left of center voters, have no illusions about what Epstein did, as well as Clinton, Trump, etc. involvement.

They're not going to be reaching for the pitchforks.

MAGAs are in denial and want the files released, but not if Trump denies them the satisfaction.
EBSVC · 36-40, T
It’s about numbers and visibility

No, it isn’t revolution

Nothing will be enough to undo what Trump has done except for decades of work

I don’t think the US will ever recover
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EBSVC · 36-40, T
@Midlifemale We will persist anyway and there’s nothing you can do about it 🤷🏻‍♀
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@EBSVC I think you were meaning that you will continue to be a Pest.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
I see it as a beneficial distraction for the huddled masses. Keep 'em out of trouble for and off the hard drugs.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
A change is coming soon. Don't worry.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@Zonuss they'll be frog legs on a platter?
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
If there was anything in the Epstein files, it would have been released by the last Admin. They had every opportunity in the last four years, yet nothing happened. I wonder why??? 😉
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@nudistsueaz Because what's there cuts both ways, and whoever is out of power can point fingers knowing that those in power will not self-incriminate? Otherwise, why not be transparent to the people and let the chips fall where they may in regards to public figures? Too many oligarchs paying hush money -- er, making donations -- to do that?
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@dancingtongue Sounds like you have read the report. I would love to see it, I'm curious. Could you please send me a copy?
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No, parades are counterproductive!
Americans know!
The mainstream is genocidal and ain't got no way to stop. No third party. So, yell some more in the road. Say absolutely nothing!
I heard you! You like these results. Uniparty. Unified. Genocide.
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