It all just sounds so easy doesn't it? Amazing how Countries with lower tax rates have better lifestyles for all people.
When the rich are put off by high tax rates and move elsewhere and the economy tanks, then what?
When the rich are put off by high tax rates and move elsewhere and the economy tanks, then what?
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@Reason10 Dude, being poor is not a choice. Why are you frowning on parents having children out of marriage?
Thrust · 56-60, M
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Countries like Norway also spend like zero on their military. Like most of Europe getting a free ride (for now) from the US.
They have more cash for nanny state blather (but still, the natives don’t reproduce)
Countries like Norway also spend like zero on their military. Like most of Europe getting a free ride (for now) from the US.
They have more cash for nanny state blather (but still, the natives don’t reproduce)
dale74 · M
First of all, there is a fallacy in your logic.Your taxing companies companies really never pay taxes.They just pass the tax on to the customer. If a company makes a billion dollars
And you tax them, ten percent.They will rise the price of goods and services by fifteen to twenty percent.
The biggest question is, why do you want?The government wasting so much money.The government is not going to spend it on the taxpayer or on the citizen.As a matter of fact, they spend it on everybody.But the citizen.
And you have fifty percent of the citizens that pay zero in taxes.A net zero, they pay taxes.But then they get it back at the end of the year or they receive benefits in excess of the amount that they pay in taxes.This means that they have no skin in the game.That means they get to vote to tax.The wealthier because it really doesn't affect them.
First of all, the federal government could literally reduce all taxes 20.For the common citizen, tax international trade through tariffs and sales. Reduce spending on everything except for military.And that could be reduced by quite a bit. An international projects and by international projects that could be almost anything you could easily trim the federal budget from close 26 trillion down to 1.5 this could easily be covered by tariffs and international trade. As well as sales of federal minerals, timber and such.
Have all your welfare programs?Everything turned over to the local states.Then, you're paying the state taxes for your goods and services that you receive from the state or the government.Also putting the government representation closer to the individual, making them more accountable to the citizens.That they represent.
And you tax them, ten percent.They will rise the price of goods and services by fifteen to twenty percent.
The biggest question is, why do you want?The government wasting so much money.The government is not going to spend it on the taxpayer or on the citizen.As a matter of fact, they spend it on everybody.But the citizen.
And you have fifty percent of the citizens that pay zero in taxes.A net zero, they pay taxes.But then they get it back at the end of the year or they receive benefits in excess of the amount that they pay in taxes.This means that they have no skin in the game.That means they get to vote to tax.The wealthier because it really doesn't affect them.
First of all, the federal government could literally reduce all taxes 20.For the common citizen, tax international trade through tariffs and sales. Reduce spending on everything except for military.And that could be reduced by quite a bit. An international projects and by international projects that could be almost anything you could easily trim the federal budget from close 26 trillion down to 1.5 this could easily be covered by tariffs and international trade. As well as sales of federal minerals, timber and such.
Have all your welfare programs?Everything turned over to the local states.Then, you're paying the state taxes for your goods and services that you receive from the state or the government.Also putting the government representation closer to the individual, making them more accountable to the citizens.That they represent.
@dale74 Still deflecting and now throwing out insults :D
But you're right, politicians should change the system, that’s literally their job. But pretending they don’t have their hands tied by special interests and donors is naive. The reason tax laws stay rigged in favor of the wealthy isn’t because “they haven’t done their job,” it’s because they’re bought off by the very people who benefit from those tax breaks.
So instead of just pointing fingers, we need to change system so that it actually works for everyday people, not just the wealthy and their lobbyists. But I get it LOL it’s easier to blame the politicians and dismiss the actual problems with the system.
That’s the real stupid part.
But you're right, politicians should change the system, that’s literally their job. But pretending they don’t have their hands tied by special interests and donors is naive. The reason tax laws stay rigged in favor of the wealthy isn’t because “they haven’t done their job,” it’s because they’re bought off by the very people who benefit from those tax breaks.
So instead of just pointing fingers, we need to change system so that it actually works for everyday people, not just the wealthy and their lobbyists. But I get it LOL it’s easier to blame the politicians and dismiss the actual problems with the system.
That’s the real stupid part.
@dale74 Yaaaay! The "you’re brainwashed" card. Always a sign that the argument is lost. When you can’t respond with facts, resorting to insults is the go-to move. But if you're done with logic and want to throw in the towel, I’ll take it as a win.🥳
Have a nice day, and good luck with that "everyone's out to get you" mindset. ;)
Have a nice day, and good luck with that "everyone's out to get you" mindset. ;)

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Very insightful
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
The principle is sound, but the practice more complex. Progressive taxes are the fairest.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
Here's a much better plan. Let me count the ways.
1. Overturn the 16th Amendment. No more income taxes at the federal level. (which means no longer having to spend billions on tax accountants.
2. National SALES TAX. Fairest tax of all. At a sales tax rate of 10%, a homeless stewbum who buys a $5 bottle of cheap whiskey pays 50 cents in sales tax. A hedge fund manager who buys a $200,000 Mercedes S Class sedan pays $20,000.
50 cents versus $20,000. What's more progressive than that?
Oh, and
3. Balanced Budget Amendment. That would mean mostly discretionary spending and the END of the welfare state.
That's how you fix the problem. Tax everyone FAIRLY and get the moochers off their fat lazy asses.
Oh, and one more thing;
4. Enforce the borders, so no animals can slink in and avoid paying the national sales tax when selling fentanyl or child prostitutes.
1. Overturn the 16th Amendment. No more income taxes at the federal level. (which means no longer having to spend billions on tax accountants.
2. National SALES TAX. Fairest tax of all. At a sales tax rate of 10%, a homeless stewbum who buys a $5 bottle of cheap whiskey pays 50 cents in sales tax. A hedge fund manager who buys a $200,000 Mercedes S Class sedan pays $20,000.
50 cents versus $20,000. What's more progressive than that?
Oh, and
3. Balanced Budget Amendment. That would mean mostly discretionary spending and the END of the welfare state.
That's how you fix the problem. Tax everyone FAIRLY and get the moochers off their fat lazy asses.
Oh, and one more thing;
4. Enforce the borders, so no animals can slink in and avoid paying the national sales tax when selling fentanyl or child prostitutes.
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meJess · F
Tax is a percentage based levy, not sure politicians understand that.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
Marx, Lenin, Zedong, etc. made the same claim... how'd that work out?
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Reason10 · 70-79, M
@wildland Nope. Things began to go to hell because of Nixon's inflationist policies. Reagan's superior leadership and supply side policies rescued America from the WORST economy since FDR's Great Depression. It took a communist like KKKlinton to stop that immense economic expansion.
1490wayb · 56-60, M
or dissolve government would be much simpler
romell · 51-55, M
Absolutely rocket science..where did get this knowledge
gregloa · 61-69, M
You can start with the inside trading of the democrats
gol979 · 46-50, M
TAX. IS. THEFT.
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@BrandNewMan and you think that just because they pay more tax than the rest combined that they’re taxed a higher percentage than the bottom 50%? 😂 How naïve😂
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