dale74 · M
First of all, there is a fallacy in your logic.Your taxing companies companies really never pay taxes.They just pass the tax on to the customer. If a company makes a billion dollars
And you tax them, ten percent.They will rise the price of goods and services by fifteen to twenty percent.
The biggest question is, why do you want?The government wasting so much money.The government is not going to spend it on the taxpayer or on the citizen.As a matter of fact, they spend it on everybody.But the citizen.
And you have fifty percent of the citizens that pay zero in taxes.A net zero, they pay taxes.But then they get it back at the end of the year or they receive benefits in excess of the amount that they pay in taxes.This means that they have no skin in the game.That means they get to vote to tax.The wealthier because it really doesn't affect them.
First of all, the federal government could literally reduce all taxes 20.For the common citizen, tax international trade through tariffs and sales. Reduce spending on everything except for military.And that could be reduced by quite a bit. An international projects and by international projects that could be almost anything you could easily trim the federal budget from close 26 trillion down to 1.5 this could easily be covered by tariffs and international trade. As well as sales of federal minerals, timber and such.
Have all your welfare programs?Everything turned over to the local states.Then, you're paying the state taxes for your goods and services that you receive from the state or the government.Also putting the government representation closer to the individual, making them more accountable to the citizens.That they represent.
And you tax them, ten percent.They will rise the price of goods and services by fifteen to twenty percent.
The biggest question is, why do you want?The government wasting so much money.The government is not going to spend it on the taxpayer or on the citizen.As a matter of fact, they spend it on everybody.But the citizen.
And you have fifty percent of the citizens that pay zero in taxes.A net zero, they pay taxes.But then they get it back at the end of the year or they receive benefits in excess of the amount that they pay in taxes.This means that they have no skin in the game.That means they get to vote to tax.The wealthier because it really doesn't affect them.
First of all, the federal government could literally reduce all taxes 20.For the common citizen, tax international trade through tariffs and sales. Reduce spending on everything except for military.And that could be reduced by quite a bit. An international projects and by international projects that could be almost anything you could easily trim the federal budget from close 26 trillion down to 1.5 this could easily be covered by tariffs and international trade. As well as sales of federal minerals, timber and such.
Have all your welfare programs?Everything turned over to the local states.Then, you're paying the state taxes for your goods and services that you receive from the state or the government.Also putting the government representation closer to the individual, making them more accountable to the citizens.That they represent.
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wildland ·
@dale74 Still deflecting and now throwing out insults :D
But you're right, politicians should change the system, that’s literally their job. But pretending they don’t have their hands tied by special interests and donors is naive. The reason tax laws stay rigged in favor of the wealthy isn’t because “they haven’t done their job,” it’s because they’re bought off by the very people who benefit from those tax breaks.
So instead of just pointing fingers, we need to change system so that it actually works for everyday people, not just the wealthy and their lobbyists. But I get it LOL it’s easier to blame the politicians and dismiss the actual problems with the system.
That’s the real stupid part.
But you're right, politicians should change the system, that’s literally their job. But pretending they don’t have their hands tied by special interests and donors is naive. The reason tax laws stay rigged in favor of the wealthy isn’t because “they haven’t done their job,” it’s because they’re bought off by the very people who benefit from those tax breaks.
So instead of just pointing fingers, we need to change system so that it actually works for everyday people, not just the wealthy and their lobbyists. But I get it LOL it’s easier to blame the politicians and dismiss the actual problems with the system.
That’s the real stupid part.
wildland ·
@dale74 Yaaaay! The "you’re brainwashed" card. Always a sign that the argument is lost. When you can’t respond with facts, resorting to insults is the go-to move. But if you're done with logic and want to throw in the towel, I’ll take it as a win.🥳
Have a nice day, and good luck with that "everyone's out to get you" mindset. ;)
Have a nice day, and good luck with that "everyone's out to get you" mindset. ;)
It all just sounds so easy doesn't it? Amazing how Countries with lower tax rates have better lifestyles for all people.
When the rich are put off by high tax rates and move elsewhere and the economy tanks, then what?
When the rich are put off by high tax rates and move elsewhere and the economy tanks, then what?
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
@wildland
Yep but that would be redistributed to the economy not to a Peter Pan system where everything is just perfect 🤗
Under a flat tax system they would enjoy massive tax cuts.
Yep but that would be redistributed to the economy not to a Peter Pan system where everything is just perfect 🤗
SW-User
Very insightful
wildland ·
@SW-User Also true.
SW-User
@wildland let's assume companies like Disney, apple, facebook, nfl, mgm, paid their fair share of taxes your definition of fair share is probably 90 percent currently none but maybe one pay a penny in taxes. So now the US has 90 percent of 4 of the top ten grossing companies in the country where does that money go now
wildland ·
@SW-User
OK, well here's the thing. Many of the wealthiest companies like Disney, Apple, and Facebook pay little to no taxes thanks to loopholes and offshore accounts. It’s not about taxing them at 90%, it’s about making sure they actually pay what they owe. These companies thrive off public infrastructure (roads, internet, education, etc.), and it’s time they contribute fairly.
When they pay their fair share, we can improve healthcare, education, roads, and social services—things that benefit everyone. More revenue = more opportunities for EVERYONE, not just the top 1%. That's clear.
The real question I suppose isn’t should we tax the rich, it’s how do we fix a broken system that lets them avoid paying at all?
OK, well here's the thing. Many of the wealthiest companies like Disney, Apple, and Facebook pay little to no taxes thanks to loopholes and offshore accounts. It’s not about taxing them at 90%, it’s about making sure they actually pay what they owe. These companies thrive off public infrastructure (roads, internet, education, etc.), and it’s time they contribute fairly.
When they pay their fair share, we can improve healthcare, education, roads, and social services—things that benefit everyone. More revenue = more opportunities for EVERYONE, not just the top 1%. That's clear.
The real question I suppose isn’t should we tax the rich, it’s how do we fix a broken system that lets them avoid paying at all?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
The principle is sound, but the practice more complex. Progressive taxes are the fairest.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
Here's a much better plan. Let me count the ways.
1. Overturn the 16th Amendment. No more income taxes at the federal level. (which means no longer having to spend billions on tax accountants.
2. National SALES TAX. Fairest tax of all. At a sales tax rate of 10%, a homeless stewbum who buys a $5 bottle of cheap whiskey pays 50 cents in sales tax. A hedge fund manager who buys a $200,000 Mercedes S Class sedan pays $20,000.
50 cents versus $20,000. What's more progressive than that?
Oh, and
3. Balanced Budget Amendment. That would mean mostly discretionary spending and the END of the welfare state.
That's how you fix the problem. Tax everyone FAIRLY and get the moochers off their fat lazy asses.
Oh, and one more thing;
4. Enforce the borders, so no animals can slink in and avoid paying the national sales tax when selling fentanyl or child prostitutes.
1. Overturn the 16th Amendment. No more income taxes at the federal level. (which means no longer having to spend billions on tax accountants.
2. National SALES TAX. Fairest tax of all. At a sales tax rate of 10%, a homeless stewbum who buys a $5 bottle of cheap whiskey pays 50 cents in sales tax. A hedge fund manager who buys a $200,000 Mercedes S Class sedan pays $20,000.
50 cents versus $20,000. What's more progressive than that?
Oh, and
3. Balanced Budget Amendment. That would mean mostly discretionary spending and the END of the welfare state.
That's how you fix the problem. Tax everyone FAIRLY and get the moochers off their fat lazy asses.
Oh, and one more thing;
4. Enforce the borders, so no animals can slink in and avoid paying the national sales tax when selling fentanyl or child prostitutes.
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Reason10 · 70-79, M
@wildland Nope. Things began to go to hell because of Nixon's inflationist policies. Reagan's superior leadership and supply side policies rescued America from the WORST economy since FDR's Great Depression. It took a communist like KKKlinton to stop that immense economic expansion.
romell · 51-55, M
Absolutely rocket science..where did get this knowledge
gol979 · 41-45, M
TAX. IS. THEFT.