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Malls are dead. What happens if Amazon also kills Costco, Sams Club and BJ’s?



Photo above – Luke Wilson and Maya Rudolf prepare to shop at Costco in the 2006 film “Idiocracy”

Streaming is killing cable, because of cable box subscriber fees. Could the same happen to warehouse clubs like Costco and Sam’s Club? How many annual or monthly fees will someone endure before surrendering? Cracks are starting to appear in the façade. Costco is offering "limited time deals" on membership. (See link below).

Warehouse club annual memberships cost from $50 to $120 annually, depending on how much sales resistance you have when they pound you with upgrade offers at checkout. So far I find it easy to brush off their co-branded credit card, which only drags down your FICO score and has hilarious high interest rates compared to most other cards.

Costco can be the most expensive annual membership among warehouse clubs. $65 for entry level basic features, but $120 popularly equipped with a 2% gas discount. That might work for you if (1) your local Costco actually has gas pumps, (2) you don’t own an electric car, and (3) there’s no off-brand discount filling station 2 blocks away. If you can check all those boxes, then you only have to pump 400 gallons a year at Costco to break even.

Although Costco is blanketing America with news of their “limited time” membership discounts, the company doesn’t appear to be circling the drain yet. Corporate profits have been increasing about 8% annually, since forever. But that means they’re now a mature company, not a growth stock.

In 2025 Costco earned $8.X billion. On 128 million members. That works out to . . . ca-ching . . . about $62 profit per household. Without the annual fees, they appear to be losing money. Warehouse clubs would probably be more profitable on a household level if we shopped there less often, and simply paid the annual dues.

Here’s why I’m ending my warehouse club membership. I can get everything I need from Amazon, without having to park a football field away from the store entrance, spend an hour roaming through the retail version of the Great Pyramid of Cheops, and wait another 15 minutes for checkout. Then slog back to the car in the rain. It's why malls are dying in general.

I’ve been experimenting with Amazon for paper towels and bathroom tissue, to see if I can ditch Costco. Amazon costs about the same on a per sheet basis, and I get 5% back at Amazon, and it’s delivered right to my door. Ginormous packages of paper and soda are the reason Costco exists in the first place. The ability to completely fill the trunk of your Honda Civic with a package of Bounty paper towels the size of a doghouse. That’s not the size I’m ordering from Amazon, but the cost per sheet turns out to be the same. And I earn 5% rewards.

Today's column is NOT a promo for Amazon. Here's why I’m still skeptical about their ability to drive a nail in the coffin of their warehouse club competitors. Amazon Prime Video streaming is THE WORST. It takes forever to load the show, and you have to endure that endless herky-jerky spinning wheel before it starts. And you spend 5 minutes navigating the menu to find what you want.

Amazon has retail pricing power and fast front door delivery. And since I’m getting Amazon Prime video “at no extra cost” with my retail shopping, I’m giving their hideous streaming faults a pass. But look out, Comcast, Peacock, YouTube, Netflix, Disney, Sony Pictures, Apple TV, and ESPN Unlimited. Some of you guys are on about to get cut from my subscriptions. People aren’t made of money, you know.

I’m just sayin’ . . .



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helenS · 36-40, F
It's not that Amazon kills malls. The customers do.

Added: And it's not that shopping malls killed small domestic shops in town. The customers preferred to do their shopping at the mall, and now they prefer to shop using their computer mouse. Amazon is the digital equivalent of a Sears catalog.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@helenS customer buy on price and convenience. immigrants come for jobs and public safety. you can't blame people for looking out for their own self interest in ways that are legal.
helenS · 36-40, F
@SusanInFlorida I definitely don't blame people for their decisions when it's about where to buy their stuff. Or do you think I did?
The problem is that millions of illegal aliens are in the US in ways that are not legal and subject to deportation for that in accordance with US Immigration Law. Can’t blame them for trying.

PS they are illegal aliens clearly defined in US immigration law. There is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. It’s a term made up by MSNOTANYMORE in a lame attempt to snooker patriotic US citizen taxpayers. @SusanInFlorida @helenS
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Have you been to a Costco recently? There seems to always be a crowd. I am still a cable customer, although i admit, i am looking into the feasibility of abandoning the traditional plan and going to streaming. Each time I do, i hear of someone i know whose internet connection went down and they had no TV, or i have a steaming problem with the one TV i have that is not connected to cable, and i use it only via Wifi.

As to gas costs, i now drive an EV for which Costco provided $2k towards the downpayment
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
I was suckered in by Costco's $20 introductory membership. I'm cancelling my membership this month before it renews. Three shopping trips in a year isn't worth it. Cheap gas is close to home and a tank lasts me for three weeks. The location is a PITA to get to. And I detest crowds. Costco's stock price, last I looked, is $900 a share.

My partner prefers Sam's. We always get lunch for less than $5 for both. I've got more than a years worth of paper products stashed in a spare bedroom.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Crazywaterspring the marketing policies of Costco, their relationship with their employees, etc., make it worth the membership costs. I keep questioning my prime membership on Amazon. Their marketing strategy and treatment of employees are not so commendable, and their price keeps climbing. At one time I at least, got a discount for being a veteran.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@samueltyler2 Kroger in Texas is unionized. Lowe's and Home Depot give veteran discounts but not on major appliances.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Crazywaterspring I am not sure of your point. There are other companies besides Home Depot and Lowe's to give veteran discounts. They require you to preregister and have your status on your profile. IHop gives a discount.
swirlie · 31-35
I read your whole post, great read. Amazon in Canada was working exactly as you describe until Amazon decided to double their shipping fees, or suddenly stopped offering free shipping if certain conditions were met. Now, we have to pay for everything no matter how much you buy in one order and their shipping fees aren't cheap.

I have stopped using Amazon because they laid off an entire warehouse full of workers in Canada who voted for Union representation when Amazon only paid minimum wage for full-time work. As a result, Amazon has pulled out of most places in Canada as soon as employees started complaining about poor working conditions and toxic American management.

What I've been finding is that paper products like you've described can be found at the same price at Walmart but without an annual membership fee that Costco charges.

As for Amazon, I can no longer support a corporate management mentality that gives out huge annual bonuses to their Executive Management group, but do it off the backs of their low paid labor force who keep the place running.
TurtlePink · 22-25, F
Amazon better step up their game. Because they cannot compete with bricks and mortar stores. It takes like two weeks for me to get my stuff from Amazon. It takes me two minutes to go get milk from Walmart.
swirlie · 31-35
@SusanInFlorida
i won't say this is wrong, but do you have a link to anything telling us why you believe that?

Sure, this is what I wrote later...

I read your whole post, great read. Amazon in Canada was working exactly as you describe until Amazon decided to double their shipping fees, or suddenly stopped offering free shipping if certain conditions were met. Now, we have to pay for everything no matter how much you buy in one order and their shipping fees aren't cheap.

I have stopped using Amazon because they laid off an entire warehouse full of workers in Canada who voted for Union representation when Amazon only paid minimum wage for full-time work. As a result, Amazon has pulled out of most places in Canada as soon as employees started complaining about poor working conditions and toxic American management.

What I've been finding is that paper products like you've described can be found at the same price at Walmart but without an annual membership fee that Costco charges.

As for Amazon, I can no longer support a corporate management mentality that gives out huge annual bonuses to their Executive Management group, but do it off the backs of their low paid labor force who keep the place running.
TurtlePink · 22-25, F
@swirlie you have some major issues
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@swirlie good points. but in america i don't pay shipping fees. just the $129 amazon membership.

I get 5% back on my purchases. if buy $60 a week from Amazon i come out ahead, netting the membership fee against those cashback rebates.
HoeBag · 46-50, F
I do not know how malls ever survived to begin with. They have always been overpriced.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@HoeBag people want a safe place to shop and hang out. in lots of cities the actual main street is dominated by bars, drug dealers, panhandlers, and hookers.
HoeBag · 46-50, F
@SusanInFlorida You just described where I live.

But yeah, those entities eventually ruin everything. I just wonder why they haven't found their way into the malls that are still open. Unless mall security is real strict.
I always knew that Idiocracy would be even more prescient than the Simpsons. Apart from the fact that IQs don't actually seem to be going down, it's all coming horribly true. In America, at least.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@wishforthenight the studios didn't release Idiocracy for several years. they assumed either that it would be a flop, or that it would tarnish their reputation.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
The two most important concerns of the consumers in todays world is price and convienence.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Nitedoc I drive, but sometimes i would have to go to several different stores, if even then I could find them all.
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@samueltyler2 I get it.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Nitedoc mine is avoiding the 4 minute traffic signal interval when trying to make a left hand turn.
JackDaniels · 46-50, M
Malls have been dead a long time. Long before Amazon.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@JackDaniels the upscale malls still seem to do well.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Corporations throwing all their money at what is trendy until it is no longer trendy, rather than solid products and services that serve the customers, and then dropping them like a hot potato is the real culprit.
Lostpoet · M
😡They better not kill my BJs

 
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