CountScrofula · 41-45, M
They've now clarified that there was a Hamas camera in the hospital.
Well thank God for that.
Well thank God for that.
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@CountScrofula Except a moment ago it was secret tunnels under the hospital, and before that it was simply a “mistake”.
Must have been a game changing “camera” to need a double strike. But at least they could afford to wait until as many paramedics, first responders and journalists as possible had congregated before their second “mistake”
Must have been a game changing “camera” to need a double strike. But at least they could afford to wait until as many paramedics, first responders and journalists as possible had congregated before their second “mistake”
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@CountScrofula 100%
In fact, I think they were counting on Hamas to provide them with an excuse to finally extend Israel from the River Jordan to the sea, as Israel has repeatedly said.
And now, they have.
In fact, I think they were counting on Hamas to provide them with an excuse to finally extend Israel from the River Jordan to the sea, as Israel has repeatedly said.
And now, they have.
I'm sure the second hit 15 minutes later was a mistake too... Not.
I do bet for real that supporters will claim there were Hamas members among the rescue workers rushing to the scene after the first bombing though, and that this somehow justifies both the first and second attack. 🙄
I do bet for real that supporters will claim there were Hamas members among the rescue workers rushing to the scene after the first bombing though, and that this somehow justifies both the first and second attack. 🙄
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@NerdyPotato Not like double taps are a terrorist tactic to take out first responders....oh wait.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@NerdyPotato The Canadian news reported that the IDF claimed a "Hamas camera" was pointed at them. So apparently electronics are members of Hamas now too.
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow The Hunger Games was supposed to be a warning, not an inspiration...
ElwoodBlues · M
@sunsporter1649 says
Israel has about 350 hospitals for a population of about 9.974 million. In other words, a hospital for every 28,500 people.
Gaza had a population of 2.2 million prior to Israel's attacks, so, if there were rough parity between Gaza and Israel, you'd expect 77 hospitals.
Again, sunstroke, how many hospitals did you think there were in Gaza?
Amazing how many hospitals there are in what used to be gaza
How many hospitals did you think there were in Gaza?Israel has about 350 hospitals for a population of about 9.974 million. In other words, a hospital for every 28,500 people.
Gaza had a population of 2.2 million prior to Israel's attacks, so, if there were rough parity between Gaza and Israel, you'd expect 77 hospitals.
Again, sunstroke, how many hospitals did you think there were in Gaza?
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues The senile loon Sunstroke is still around. Huh. Seems he did me a favor and blocked me.
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I’ve just blocked him because of his comments here. Im convinced that he’s simply evil
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@wishforthenight He is definitely the worst of all stereotypes about Americans....so yes.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
The official line (to western media) is that this war was always about getting hostages back and taking out Hamas. Anyone who doubted this was an 'anti-semite' and/or spreading pro-Hamas propaganda.
They are still using those lines, long after their plausible deniability has collapsed. If you judge by their actions, not words: They are committing a deliberate genocide to de-populate Gaza. Some of their politicians have said this openly.
They are still using those lines, long after their plausible deniability has collapsed. If you judge by their actions, not words: They are committing a deliberate genocide to de-populate Gaza. Some of their politicians have said this openly.
Northwest · M
Twice. Steep learning curve. Don't have a Ring next to your door, you too can be shredded to pieces.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
It was no mistake
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
Even if you given them the benefit of the doubt with this one. What about every other hospital and clinic in Gaza? That is an awful lot of "accidents".
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow there’s no doubt about it. Israel has already admitted that nearly 85% of the Palestinians it has massacred were non-combatants.
This is deliberate. And Israel doesn’t care who knows it.
This is deliberate. And Israel doesn’t care who knows it.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@wishforthenight Oh I know. Just pointing out some inconvenient facts for the few delusional ZIonists around here.
I pointed out to one in particular that not even 1940s saturation bombing of Germany killed as many civilians or even destroyed as many buildings.
There was literally more buildings standing in Dresden than in Gaza.
I pointed out to one in particular that not even 1940s saturation bombing of Germany killed as many civilians or even destroyed as many buildings.
There was literally more buildings standing in Dresden than in Gaza.
wrule · F
They bombed a church by mistake some months ago and now this hospital. Too many mistakes.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@wrule There is no plausible deniability left.
HiFiRaver · 18-21, M
It happens live on TV and still there's denial 🤦🏼♂
@HiFiRaver Israel is like Shaggy. We saw you in the hospitals, “wasn’t me” We saw you in the churches, “wasn’t me”
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@wishforthenight She even caught me on camera.... 👍🏻
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Amazing how many hospitals there are in what used to be gaza
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@sunsporter1649 a good question
AlienTheExtraterrestrial · 36-40, F
@sunsporter1649 You Hippy Joe are still sharing one brain cell, huh?
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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Americans ain't voted genocide. Just go back to work. Ain't nobody doing nothing. It's a mistake.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Hamas launching weapons from it?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@wishforthenight
P.S. I’m interested as to why you clearly swallow everything Israel says about its “mistakes” (50,000+ civilians and counting) when they rarely, if ever, provide verifiable evidence to back up their claims.
I don't believe that. Rather, you want me to provide a comment so you can condescend and judge me because I don't swallow the same narratives.
Your entire framework is "Israel is an evil apartheid nation that is actively exterminating the Palestinians in a quasi fascist way. It's entirely the aggression of Israel that is causing this issue. The poor poor Palestinians."
This is not the beliefs of a person actively interested in discussing the matter.
I'm quite aware of Israel's poor behavior and shocking violence. However, you need to start considering the following:
Hamas is a death cult based around the destruction of Israel. They have NO interest in settling with Israel and learning to share the area and get along.
Palestine is Hamas, Hamas is Palestine. They are one and the same.
Hamas is a terrorist organization with ties to Iran. They are funded and controlled by the Iranian Republican guard.
Palestine is a breeding ground for creating and cultivating terrorists who hate Israel. There are no children, there are soldiers who are armed and fighting, but not yet 18 years old.
Israel and the Western nations have tried to settle their differences and have offered many, many, MANY concessions that the Palestinians have rejected multiple times over the last 70 years.
The Palestinians are not interested in resolving their differences with Israel. They want Israel wiped off the map and every single Jew exterminated.
There is 1 Western Jewish nation in the region and approximately 17 Muslim Theocracies or Military Juntas. Israel is the only Western Democracy in the region.
The other Arabic nations in the area refuse to take in Palestinians as refugees. They did before and the Palestinians caused nothing but trouble for their host nations.
The so called famine is created by Hamas. They collect all the food and then use it to buy weapons or control the population. The children trotted out by the MSM showing starvation was bullshit. Those children had diseases like rickets and spina bifida.
Hamas routinely uses human shields and then cynically blames Israel for killing the people they use to shield themselves.
So I am not personally thrilled with Israel's actions. But the Palesitinians are crazy. It's a tragedy. They have had opportunity after opportunity and have thrown it away because their hatred is what motivates them.
P.S. I’m interested as to why you clearly swallow everything Israel says about its “mistakes” (50,000+ civilians and counting) when they rarely, if ever, provide verifiable evidence to back up their claims.
I don't believe that. Rather, you want me to provide a comment so you can condescend and judge me because I don't swallow the same narratives.
Your entire framework is "Israel is an evil apartheid nation that is actively exterminating the Palestinians in a quasi fascist way. It's entirely the aggression of Israel that is causing this issue. The poor poor Palestinians."
This is not the beliefs of a person actively interested in discussing the matter.
I'm quite aware of Israel's poor behavior and shocking violence. However, you need to start considering the following:
Hamas is a death cult based around the destruction of Israel. They have NO interest in settling with Israel and learning to share the area and get along.
Palestine is Hamas, Hamas is Palestine. They are one and the same.
Hamas is a terrorist organization with ties to Iran. They are funded and controlled by the Iranian Republican guard.
Palestine is a breeding ground for creating and cultivating terrorists who hate Israel. There are no children, there are soldiers who are armed and fighting, but not yet 18 years old.
Israel and the Western nations have tried to settle their differences and have offered many, many, MANY concessions that the Palestinians have rejected multiple times over the last 70 years.
The Palestinians are not interested in resolving their differences with Israel. They want Israel wiped off the map and every single Jew exterminated.
There is 1 Western Jewish nation in the region and approximately 17 Muslim Theocracies or Military Juntas. Israel is the only Western Democracy in the region.
The other Arabic nations in the area refuse to take in Palestinians as refugees. They did before and the Palestinians caused nothing but trouble for their host nations.
The so called famine is created by Hamas. They collect all the food and then use it to buy weapons or control the population. The children trotted out by the MSM showing starvation was bullshit. Those children had diseases like rickets and spina bifida.
Hamas routinely uses human shields and then cynically blames Israel for killing the people they use to shield themselves.
So I am not personally thrilled with Israel's actions. But the Palesitinians are crazy. It's a tragedy. They have had opportunity after opportunity and have thrown it away because their hatred is what motivates them.
@SumKindaMunster I see. So you’re essentially saying that:
1. I am biased and only want to hear views that confirm my “anti-Israel” stance and im not genuinely open to discussion (and if you believe that then I have a pot and a black kettle to sell you).
2. Israel has made “mistakes,”but the real cause of the conflict is Palestinian hatred, which is embodied entirely by Hamas. And by that you’re inferring that Hamas and all Palestinians are the same ("Palestine is Hamas"), and are portraying Palestinians not as civilians, but as inherently violent, indoctrinated, or complicit in terrorism, even the children. You believe Palestinians reject peace and only want to destroy Israel, whereas Israel and the West have made "many" good-faith efforts to make peace.
3. You blame other Arab nations for not accepting Palestinian refugees and accuses Hamas of faking famine and using human shields.
Correct?
If so, I expected nothing less. It’s your usual deeply binary, ideologically far-right, and dehumanizing comment that rejects any sort of nuance or mutual responsibility. You’re using a mix of propaganda, racism, and lazy thinking. Equating all Palestinians with Hamas is not just wrong, it is disgusting.
Calling children “not children” because they are born into conflict is dehumanizing garbage. You excuse 50,000 civilian deaths by parroting Israeli talking points without demanding a shred of evidence. That is not moral clarity. That is blind loyalty.
You claim to "not be thrilled" with Israel while repeating every excuse they give to justify mass killing. You are not interested in truth or peace.
You want moral cover for brutality. If you cannot see Palestinians as human beings, your opinion, as I’ve grown to realize, is worthless in any serious discussion about justice, law, or basic decency.
Goodbye 👋
1. I am biased and only want to hear views that confirm my “anti-Israel” stance and im not genuinely open to discussion (and if you believe that then I have a pot and a black kettle to sell you).
2. Israel has made “mistakes,”but the real cause of the conflict is Palestinian hatred, which is embodied entirely by Hamas. And by that you’re inferring that Hamas and all Palestinians are the same ("Palestine is Hamas"), and are portraying Palestinians not as civilians, but as inherently violent, indoctrinated, or complicit in terrorism, even the children. You believe Palestinians reject peace and only want to destroy Israel, whereas Israel and the West have made "many" good-faith efforts to make peace.
3. You blame other Arab nations for not accepting Palestinian refugees and accuses Hamas of faking famine and using human shields.
Correct?
If so, I expected nothing less. It’s your usual deeply binary, ideologically far-right, and dehumanizing comment that rejects any sort of nuance or mutual responsibility. You’re using a mix of propaganda, racism, and lazy thinking. Equating all Palestinians with Hamas is not just wrong, it is disgusting.
Calling children “not children” because they are born into conflict is dehumanizing garbage. You excuse 50,000 civilian deaths by parroting Israeli talking points without demanding a shred of evidence. That is not moral clarity. That is blind loyalty.
You claim to "not be thrilled" with Israel while repeating every excuse they give to justify mass killing. You are not interested in truth or peace.
You want moral cover for brutality. If you cannot see Palestinians as human beings, your opinion, as I’ve grown to realize, is worthless in any serious discussion about justice, law, or basic decency.
Goodbye 👋
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helenS · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 Show me one post of yours or @wishforthenight about the ongoing genocide in Sudan's Darfur region and I'll apologize immediately.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@helenS That a genocide is going on somewhere else too isn't an argument against my position. It doesn't mean what Israel is doing is ok. It also doesn't indicate double standards. Maybe if I defended genocide in Sudan, it would.
Al Fashar has maybe a third of the population of Gaza. Also, Israel is being funded and supported by Western governments and has been backed by Western politicians. Including in my own country.
If you are seriously saying that those if us calling out Israel are motivated by anti-jewisjsh prejudice then that is pretty weak. Also offensive.
Al Fashar has maybe a third of the population of Gaza. Also, Israel is being funded and supported by Western governments and has been backed by Western politicians. Including in my own country.
If you are seriously saying that those if us calling out Israel are motivated by anti-jewisjsh prejudice then that is pretty weak. Also offensive.
HiFiRaver · 18-21, M
@Burnley123 Accusations of antisemitism are an attempt to silence any criticism of Israel and any honest discussion of what is actually happening in Gaza. It is BS and I'm not falling for it.
All the denial in the West is just funny to me. There is little denial in the Israeli media. They're very honest about what they're doing and what they intend to do.
There is no Sudan lobby receiving billions of dollars in military aid to carry out their genocide. There is no one defending the Sudanese government the way helenS defends Israel. This whataboutism fails.
All the denial in the West is just funny to me. There is little denial in the Israeli media. They're very honest about what they're doing and what they intend to do.
There is no Sudan lobby receiving billions of dollars in military aid to carry out their genocide. There is no one defending the Sudanese government the way helenS defends Israel. This whataboutism fails.