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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
They've now clarified that there was a Hamas camera in the hospital.
Well thank God for that.
Well thank God for that.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@CountScrofula Karen, is Hamas here in the room right now? 🙄
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Burnley123 It was really important to wait until everyone ran into the hospital to find survivors and bomb it again - who knows what that camera could have seen.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@CountScrofula Leaving our mutual sarcasm aside for a second, it's like the IDF have set themselves a challenge for how much they can gaslight the world's media and get away with it.
Some people still defend them! Less that before but it's still remarkable.
Some people still defend them! Less that before but it's still remarkable.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Burnley123 I feel like I've gone insane.
I get that on American cable news, they didn't even mention deaths in Gaza until months after Israel started completely leveling the place and its all tightly contained but the sheer overwhelming evidence that this is the greatest crime of our lifetimes, which we are -paying for-, beggars belief.
Like I can't reconcile people going "Yeah but Hamas have hostages and its a war, war has casualties" with reality it's insane.
I get that on American cable news, they didn't even mention deaths in Gaza until months after Israel started completely leveling the place and its all tightly contained but the sheer overwhelming evidence that this is the greatest crime of our lifetimes, which we are -paying for-, beggars belief.
Like I can't reconcile people going "Yeah but Hamas have hostages and its a war, war has casualties" with reality it's insane.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@CountScrofula The BBC has for the longest time practiced an uncritical both sidesism and taken much of what Israel has said as credible. It's led to internal conflict within the organisation that got leaked to Owen Jones.
That some see the BBC as having a leftwing bias beggars belief but it's a well engrained view on the British right. Most liberals and normies just see it as "objective.:
Recently, a dam has broken for no other reason than the last vestiges of plausible deniability have collapsed. The aerial shots if Gaza and the aid agencies screaming about the humanitarian crisis have broken through and normie opinion is now admitting that - yes -Israel is actually committing a genocide. They still choose not to report some things out, obviously.
The Guardian is the same because they've belatedly realised that the liberal Zionist position (always a contradiction) is now completely untenable. Obviously they want to blame it all on Netanyahu (the Israeli trump) which completely misses the point.
I assume it's similar in Canada. I've read and seen here that mainstream American liberal voters have moved hard against Israel and that is welcome. I just feel it's too little too late.
That some see the BBC as having a leftwing bias beggars belief but it's a well engrained view on the British right. Most liberals and normies just see it as "objective.:
Recently, a dam has broken for no other reason than the last vestiges of plausible deniability have collapsed. The aerial shots if Gaza and the aid agencies screaming about the humanitarian crisis have broken through and normie opinion is now admitting that - yes -Israel is actually committing a genocide. They still choose not to report some things out, obviously.
The Guardian is the same because they've belatedly realised that the liberal Zionist position (always a contradiction) is now completely untenable. Obviously they want to blame it all on Netanyahu (the Israeli trump) which completely misses the point.
I assume it's similar in Canada. I've read and seen here that mainstream American liberal voters have moved hard against Israel and that is welcome. I just feel it's too little too late.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Burnley123 Oh it's *WAY* too late and notably neither the UK or Canada are actually threatening the turn off the tap, just recognize Palestine as a state which is basically a sick joke at this point.
I just watched a video from NBC which is the gold standard for tepid liberalism and it was pretty fascinating in how carefully it toes a line of telling the truth but not giving viewers enough context to reach the obvious conclusion that this is a deliberate pattern.
I just watched a video from NBC which is the gold standard for tepid liberalism and it was pretty fascinating in how carefully it toes a line of telling the truth but not giving viewers enough context to reach the obvious conclusion that this is a deliberate pattern.
@CountScrofula Except a moment ago it was secret tunnels under the hospital, and before that it was simply a “mistake”.
Must have been a game changing “camera” to need a double strike. But at least they could afford to wait until as many paramedics, first responders and journalists as possible had congregated before their second “mistake”
Must have been a game changing “camera” to need a double strike. But at least they could afford to wait until as many paramedics, first responders and journalists as possible had congregated before their second “mistake”
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