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American Eagle ran an ad based on eugenics just now

Literally Nazi eugenics is wild, talks about Sydney Sweeny having great "jeans" (genes) because she has blue eyes and is white 🙄

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Nah, that's an overreaction. I get being extra cautious living under a fascist government, but this is ridiculous. The last thing the Left needs right now is a return of the SJW lunacy.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe You have your opinion, I have mine. They can make smarter choices, eugenics is obvious here. During the Trump regime, it's just a poor choice, nothing much to really say about that other than poor choice
@SatanBurger Eugenics is about controlling reproduction in order to get desired heritable traits. If I say I got my cute smile from my mother, that's not eugenics. If we sterilized everyone who doesn't have a nice smile in order to produce a race of people with nice smiles, that would be eugenics.

I don't care about this corporation, I don't even wear jeans. I'm worried that the Right is going to use this to win over normies like they did back in 2016 with the "Anti-SJW" movement.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe Anything the left has an issue with is going to get smeared by the right regardless, that's the opps job basically. It's our job to combat this in any way or form.

If you say you want health care for all, the right smears that to people who don't bother to ask for specifics. People are always going to leap out of emotion. I mean, I want to save feelings here but the old quote of "if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" is true here. It's not the left's job to manage the emotions of people who are so breakable that they don't stand for anything at all.

It's still eugenics, I know what they're implying as fashion companies has a history of doing that from the other video I posted, it's nothing new but it is in poor taste.

With Trump being president and the white nationalist rhetoric I'm seeing more and more out there, I feel is no coincidence.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe Although I get your fear about another anti sjw storm going on.

We need those spineless people on our side though as they are larger in numbers so we do have to dance around their fragile "don't stand for nothing" attitudes so we got to be careful as not to rock their fragile emotions. Or else face their wrath as ultra nationalists later.

I do get it, I didn't mean to upset anyone with my post but I still hold my position. I can't really help how I feel. I'm not saying to boycott them or anything but I do like to call it as I see it. I don't think anything I said was untrue
@SatanBurger It's ok, we can disagree on this, but I think it's important to discuss this stuff. Besides, we wouldn't be real Leftists if we didn't disagree with others Leftists.

So I totally agree with this:
Anything the left has an issue with is going to get smeared by the right regardless, that's the opps job basically.

But this actually backfires a lot. Remember this guy?

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This massively backfired. Normies saw how insane it was to get mad because a video game lets you choose your pronouns. Leftists took the opportunity to roast him and the Right as a whole for being so weirdly obsessed with hating trans people to the point where they hate pronouns.

But when the Right makes fun of the Left for being mad over a sexy commercial with a bit of wordplay, because the Left thinks it's a fascist dog whistle, that's not going to backfire. That's going to make normies think the Left actually has gone insane.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe I see what you're saying but the commercial is alluding to eugenics, especially at a time when white nationalism is high. I'm not saying the girl isn't pretty but it's in poor taste knowing what we're going through. This isn't the left being mad that the girl was sexy, it's in poor taste at a time when we're facing these issues. People are going to be upset, we're living in the beginning stages of the American Nazi era. The reason it's not as big now is because we're at the beginning stages.

So people are super touchy right now, they could have chosen other language for their commercial
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe Although something to consider I've looked this up to see what people are saying and under the right leaners accounts, I don't see much support for them anymore. They are talking about the left taking up issue but the usual suspects that should be under their comment sections are strangely silent.

I think Trump is screwing up by being so bold and screwing even red states over that its losing steam. The cult will always be the cult but I have noticed that they been strangely silent lately. Even on here
@SatanBurger But that's not eugenics. Eugenics is a planned effort to get results through selective breeding. It's not eugenics to say "I have good genes."

This also isn't eugenics:

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Seriously, imagine being accused of having fascist ideology because you brag about getting your good looks from your parents.

The fact that the Republicans are doing an ethnic cleansing among other war crimes means we have to be even more accurate in our criticism. The Right wants to be able to say "Oh, you guys call everything fascist, last week you were saying Sidney Sweeny did a commercial for Nazis!"
One of the reasons Trump won in 2016 was because of identity politics and a bunch of Liberals who were calling everything "racist."
@SatanBurger
I think Trump is screwing up by being so bold and screwing even red states over that its losing steam. The cult will always be the cult but I have noticed that they been strangely silent lately. Even on here

Trump is losing a lot of support on the Right for not releasing the Epstein Files. But these same people aren't abandoning Fascism. They'll still jump at the chance to defend ethnic cleansing by saying anyone who criticizes the deportation is just an SJW who thinks everything is racist.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@BohemianBabe Wow, okay, sure. An ad literally talking about genetics determining hair color and eyes and saying a blonde haired blue-eyed woman has good genes isn't exactly what it sounds like. Okay.
@LordShadowfire It's wordplay. People have been making that joke for decades, probably longer.

This unironically sounds like racism against blue-eyed blondes. Some people say "black is beautiful," is that eugenicist or racist?
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@BohemianBabe considering only 6 out of 10 men reproduce I’d say women are already practicing eugenics .
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt It’s not practicing eugenics, you got cultural things to blame for lack of reproduction like the red pill craze and men seem to think women like maga but they find It's the opposite. A lot of far right wingers and people on the fence are turning incel just cos they can't seem to figure out that most women don't want to be a trad wife.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe The ad’s pun may seem clever, but invoking “great genes” through a blonde, blue‑eyed woman pushes up against language long weaponized in eugenicist and white supremacist movements. Even if accidental, this feels like a tone‑deaf choice, especially from a brand once known for diversity. Commercial success shouldn’t excuse the potential harm of messaging about inherited traits.

It’s not a direct call to involuntary sterilization or a government-run eugenics program.

However, it trades on language and imagery historically tied to white supremacist ideologies praising inherited traits, using terms like “offspring,” and centering a stereotypically white and blue‑eyed figure.

This is actually rampart in our society that has caused a lot of black women to bleach their skin or fry their hair by being blonde. You even see men trying to fetishize white culture as a European eugenics mentality exists.

I also agree with this person:

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@LordShadowfire
The ad is promoting blue-eyed white-skinned blondes as the standard of beauty.

No it's not. It's saying a blue-eyed blonde is beautiful. Not that she's the standard, not that other people without those traits can't be beautiful too.

That's different, because we say that in direct response to people who call them "sh**skins" and other awful things.

So the Psy music video that I posted, that actually is racist because Psy didn't make that song in response to anyone calling him ugly. Or is that ok because he's Asian?

I feel like this is just anti-white racism.

Plus even if it was racism, it's still less objectively bad to punch up.

Yup, there it is.

Anti-white racism is ok because somehow other forms of racism are worst. The logic itself is racist.
@SatanBurger
The ad’s pun may seem clever, but invoking “great genes” through a blonde, blue‑eyed woman pushes up against language long weaponized in eugenicist and white supremacist movements.

Now you realize this is unironic anti-white racism, right? You're saying a black or brown person could do this ad and it would be fine, but it's racist if a blue-eyed blond white person does it.

This is actually rampart in our society that has caused a lot of black women to bleach their skin or fry their hair by being blonde.

Yeah, and other women go tanning and get a BBL. The media promotes lots of different traits as being beautiful. Look at how many people see Asians as the standard of beauty.
What is the alternative? Should we just never comment on a person's looks because someone else might try to alter their own looks?

Also, that instagram video is so insane, it makes me think the human species is just cooked.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe Honestly I think you just don't see why everyone is upset and that's okay but it is what it is. I can't change the underlying tone of the ad, it's in poor taste period.

Now you realize this is unironic anti-white racism, right? You're saying a black or brown person could do this ad and it would be fine, but it's racist if a blue-eyed blond white person does it

Nope. It's relevant to the time period we're in. White nationalism is on the rise, if it was black or Asian nationalism and this were some alternate time line it would still be wrong. Trump is president and with Trump you have specfic issues NOW with the white nationalist movement. Positive eugenics favored white middle class women and negative eugenics were minorities, disabilities and the poor.

I've said this actress is pretty, I've seen her in various roles and want the best for people. I don't hate her at all. But the reality is what the ad alludes to, not that she was white. It just so happens we have a rise in white nationalism though.

Fact remains, they could have chosen another route with the same actress.
@SatanBurger I get why people are upset, but it's still anti-white racism. It's still saying it's wrong for a white woman to celebrate her beauty and genes. Yes, there are parallels to Nazis promoting the same kind of beauty, so what? The original Nazis also promoted environmentalism and animals rights. This sounds exactly like when the Right says it's actually the Left who are Nazis because they promote vegetarianism.
It doesn't matter what the parallels are. I don't think everyone criticizing the ads in a racist, but they are certainly doing racism.

But you are saying that if a white person celebrates their beauty and genes, that's eugenics. This is a standard that I don't think you have for other races. Was Psy being a eugenicist in the music video I posted here?

The ads aren't saying non-white people shouldn't be allowed to live in America. White Nationalism is a lot more than just finding beauty in white traits.
The fact that White Nationalism is a big thing now means that the Left needs to stop with the anti-white stuff that caused MAGA in the first place. This is just a gift to the Right.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BohemianBabe You can say someone is pretty without mentioning genetics. For instance when I look at someone I think gee they're pretty but I don't generally think in terms of eugenics philosophy and have a whole narrative like that which is what makes the ad so weird.

I got that it was word play the first time when I saw it but I also get that it was alluding to eugenics too.

Left needs to stop with the anti-white stuff that caused MAGA in the first place. This is just a gift to the Right.

It's really not. I'm really trying not to fight but it seems like people like to scapegoat the left a bit unfairly without objectivity. Here's why I think that.

First, there's the issue of no objectivity.

Maga takes terms way out of context. Could they be right sometimes? Yes but I find with just even the slight mention of any concepts, they tend not to consider anything anyways.

They take the things people say way out of context no matter how you say it, you could say it in the nicest way possible, it's not going to happen and they think that any social program is coming at them like some paranoia govt conspiracy.

That's why you can never raise the minimum wage and why we'll never have free transportation and abortion back so we're stuck at high infant and female mortality rates.

Maga was never objective to begin with, they're not able to say "you know what, I'm against abortion but I recognize the dangers of not having it and even though I have an issue, I'm willing to trust someone else's judgment, " nah it's very wishful thinking to think that maga would all of a sudden be objective if the left never had its moments.

These people have something wrong with them that makes them drawn to maga in the first place, they need therapy or they'll latch onto another cult leader. For some reason, they're just really susceptible to this. And what they really need is help because there's a trauma reason why they latch onto these people. I'm not saying this out of disrespect, I really believe they need help.

Are they right about some extremism? Yes but there's a lot of theories that are in line with things like valid criticism that the Left puts out and maga never had the ability to understand that to begin with.

They don't seem to be able to grasp sociology in much the same way or recognize patterns in history and other things. I've had to explain biology and historical concepts to them many times. And many just don't care and don't see how their own actions affect others. They don't seem to have that ability.

Secondly, there's a correlation between certain types of personalities being naturally attracted to the narcissism that Trump offers. This is an even deeper issue because narcissists and their enablers rarely see their own wrong doing. They are attracted to Trump for a reason and they all have similarities that are pretty common in narcissists and their non narcissistic enabling counterparts. Enablers often are drawn to these sorts of people and I don't think it's no coincidence that nearly all of die hard maga that have been that way for many years all share the same lack of empathy and all share the same enabling behaviors.

A gaslighter is always going to gaslight no matter what. If the left did not exist, these people would still be the same.

This means that these maga people for the more die hard people are bound to always end up with the same fate.

I feel like people place an unfair responsibility on the left to make sure that everyone else's feelings are in check constantly. Do we have to be unnecessarily mean? No I don't think the left should be that but I do notice how we can't talk about racism without people trying to place responsibility on the left for everyone else's feelings on the matter. I don't have to be mean but I kinda feel like how people take things isn't my responsibility as I can't force a person to not be that way regardless.

I just feel like it's an unfair responsibility to task the left with saving every thin skinned person out there.
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@BohemianBabe
I get why people are upset, but it's still anti-white racism. It's still saying it's wrong for a white woman to celebrate her beauty and genes.
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But you are saying that if a white person celebrates their beauty and genes, that's eugenics. This is a standard that I don't think you have for other races.
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@LordShadowfire I get the first one, literally anyone who isn't anti-white is a Nazi, that makes sense.

But the second one, Satanburger actually is saying that celebrating the beauty of a blue-eyed blonde is eugenics.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@BohemianBabe maybe the whole point of the campaign was to get people doing what you’re doing . No such thing as bad publicity
@AthrillatheHunt Maybe, but I think you have to be looking for racism to find it here. But I don't know, maybe they figured anti-white racism is so common, that just having a nordic-looking woman would be enough to trigger some people.