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What's your opinion on this issue?

So for those informed about the situation between Palestine and Israel, I'm sure you know the situation is pretty tense. So basically what happens was Israel placed Palestinians in internment camps kinda like how the Japanese were in America during WW2 (I'm not sure if they're being treated worse though). So basically the UN set restrictions on this (I'm not sure the correct term) and this was the first time the US didn't side with Israel they did not vote on it in the Security Council. What are your thoughts?

My personal opinion is while I don't agree with Israel doing this because I believe people should be able to be left alone if they haven't done anything. I don't believe it's the UN's place to step in. Now I am biased as I don't believe in the UN and I am very much against a world police and Globalism and feel if Israel should be able to do what they want and if a certain country wants to call them out they should not the UN. But what do I know in just a 16 year old idiot. Also I'm not here to debate my opinion I just want to here differing ones.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
That's a pretty warped narrative. I'd suggest revisiting the topic with sources that are more history and less propaganda.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@Burnley123: No, it's your assumption and another distraction. I thought you said you debated honestly? Yeah.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Sicarium: You are paranoid AF.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@Burnley123: And another irrelevant distraction. But, hey, at least you're disproving your latest lie.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Now I am biased as I don't believe in the UN and I am very much against a world police and Globalism and feel if Israel should be able to do what they want and if a certain country wants to call them out they should not the UN.

It is an interesting point but there are two issues I want to raise on that:

1) The USA is a world policeman anyway. This is especially true of the Israel/Palestine situation where America gives the country huge overseas aid and sells it weapons. Obama's apparent move against Israel was minor, symbolic and only re-iterated existing international agreements.

2) I don't like the idea of a world policeman but then the UN is really more of an agreement body. Countries try and get together to establish mutual understandings that benefit everyone. This consensus idea is a good thing in theory and when countries go against the UN, it is usually for the wrong reasons; the Iraq War being a prime example.
GunSmoke9 · 56-60, M
@Burnley123: You don't get it, this isn't about land, settlements, but the elimination of Israel. Get rid of Hamas, stop preaching hate against Israel only then will you have peace.Israel has made attempts for peace, have the Palestinians?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@GunSmoke9: Israel actually is getting rid of Palestine and that is what the settlements are about. They are a people under military occupation.

I don't like Hamas either but they have little more chance of abolishing Israel than a fly has of abolishing a lion. This is the mother of all one sided conflicts and the dominant force needs to be reined in.
GunSmoke9 · 56-60, M
@Burnley123: What is the purpose of Hamas towards Israel?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Well your sense of history is off just a bit. After WWII the UN established the nation of Israel. When Israel declared itself to be a nation the Palestinians attacked and were defeated. Then in 1967 Israel was attacked again and again Israel prevailed. Then in 1973 Israel was again attacked and again it prevailed. Having watched the wars of 67 and 73 and all the peace efforts I don't have much support for the Palestinians.
ironsides · 22-25, M
No I do know that Palestine and Israel have a deep rooted distaste for eachother I was just talking about the current issue not really the history about it but I don't have any rebuttals to what you said I do agree with you historically
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Phantasmagoria: Many years ago I used to take groups out into virgin bush/forest and as we went I would stop and look all around me. One fellow asked me what I was doing. I told him if you don't know where you came from you will never find your way out again. So it is with history. If you don't know how you got there you will never find your way out.
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
When people are being thrown into internment camps it's always a subject to take seriously. I don't know the details of this particular event, so I can't say much. Most likely though, Israel needs to cool off from the internment camp thing. I know there are problems over there, but they shouldn't forget that their nation was founded as a direct result of similar behaviors that turned out to be one of the worst human crises ever. Not saying that's what they're doing, but it might be time to do some soul searching.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
There is no internment camp and there never was one. The Palestinians were given their own land to live on and they chose to attack Israel 6 times they lost 3 times and each time they lost they lost territory.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
I think if the plo throws rocks and attacks Israel, we shouldn't interfere with the Israeli response. How they handle terrorists is their affair.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
Keep in mind, the Palestine was stolen from the Palestinians by the European Jews in 1948, because "God" told them it was theirs and America supported that. Israel has no right to exist whatsoever, and in 68 years they haven't been able to get along with their neighbors.
Kingfish · 31-35, M
What he said.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
@Phantasmagoria: What I said predates what you said. You begin by assuming the Israelis belong there. They don't.
ironsides · 22-25, M
@hunkalove: but they're there and there's nothing we can do about it so I don't understand how Israel's controversial existence means anything. I do understand it's the source of the conflict and I have read up on the conflict itself but the conversation I'm presenting is the Israeli interment camps not its conception
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
BTW did you know that the South African apartheid system was based on the Canadian model of reserves for natives? The US has a similar system.
ironsides · 22-25, M
I did not
i dont think you can compare the interment camps because american citizens were placed there soley because of their ethnicity as opposed to another country invading or "restoring" their "holy land"....middle eastern and eastern European conflicts are the most complicated headaches to understand for me
ironsides · 22-25, M
It's just the only thing I could think of off the top of my head to compare it to because they're not like Nazi style work camps are they?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
your politican opinions are every bit as well informed as I'd expect from a 16 year old boy who doesn't read newspapers and isn't even able to vote. well done!
ironsides · 22-25, M
Newspapers like the New York Times? A very left leaning paper? Or how about the The Washington Compost? Surely you don't mean the kind that dumb people down just as much as MSNBC and CNN do you? Remember these are the same people that gave Trump a 1% chance of winning. They're not news anymore they're propaganda and actually from what I've seen in the people in my classes like Debate and AP Government they're actually VERY liberal so I think you'd expect my politics to be liberal wouldn't you? I said I wasn't here to debate my stance but to discuss the topic and learn more about it from all sides? Why do I come off more mature than you? And as for the not being able to vote I don't see how that effects anything I understand the electoral college so I don't see what difference it makes if I can't vote.
goliathtree · 56-60, M
read a bit more history. Your comparison is far from accurate.
ironsides · 22-25, M
@goliathtree: I do understand they have biases because he has said he's liberal so I knew it'd be skewed a bit but I didn't know as much as people pointed out
goliathtree · 56-60, M
keep looking for truth. you likely will find an extremely skewed version of it in academia
ironsides · 22-25, M
@goliathtree: I can agree with that even before I've seen contradictions with what I've read and what's I've been taught. To make matters work we use a text book from a very very far left author which I think we should be given one by more moderates even if the still do lean right or left
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Gee whiz what a can of worms. Until an exact replace second Jerusalem appears and no one can tell which is which and each side happily has one this will never end.

 
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