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JSul3 · 70-79
@BizSuitStacy LOL!
BS BSS: If one has broken the law, you arrest them, press charges, they get a lawyer, and a court of law determines their fate based upon the evidence presented, and a judge or jury makes the decision.....not you.
BS BSS: If one has broken the law, you arrest them, press charges, they get a lawyer, and a court of law determines their fate based upon the evidence presented, and a judge or jury makes the decision.....not you.
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missyann · 56-60
@JSul3 I also support a number of organizations. What does that have to do with anything?
I support the rule of law and due process. My question is, how do you know that the immigrants in question have NOT ever received due process? Can you prove that they have never stood before an immigration judge? We the public have no idea how many have deportation orders from years ago and no one ensured that they were deported. They may have been working and living here for years but that doesn’t mean they don’t have pending deportation orders. Are you saying that they are entitled to a new hearing?
I know that there are some great responsible hardworking immigrants in our country but how do we determine (with the exception of known gang members and violent criminals ) who they are ? Everyone can find witnesses to say that they are “ good innocent and hardworking “. Employers don’t always know what they do outside of work .
Sometimes even family and don’t always know
immigrants who are here legally but haven’t received asylum or citizenship yet are expected to follow the law .Some Immigration laws may seem a little harsh but they are simple. Don’t commit a crime, don’t lie on forms demonstrate that you will not become a “ public charge “ meaning you will not use public assistance and that you are not affiliated with or entertain criminals, or criminal activity. Ect….. They have a right to prove these changes are wrong and they can hire an attorney but they are NOT entitled to a public defender
In order for you not to say that they are just being snatched from the streets unjustly you have to know each individual case.
The media in this country on both sides is biased. No one can say for certain what is going on without personal knowledge and this is so disgusting and sad but it is a FACT
I support the rule of law and due process. My question is, how do you know that the immigrants in question have NOT ever received due process? Can you prove that they have never stood before an immigration judge? We the public have no idea how many have deportation orders from years ago and no one ensured that they were deported. They may have been working and living here for years but that doesn’t mean they don’t have pending deportation orders. Are you saying that they are entitled to a new hearing?
I know that there are some great responsible hardworking immigrants in our country but how do we determine (with the exception of known gang members and violent criminals ) who they are ? Everyone can find witnesses to say that they are “ good innocent and hardworking “. Employers don’t always know what they do outside of work .
Sometimes even family and don’t always know
immigrants who are here legally but haven’t received asylum or citizenship yet are expected to follow the law .Some Immigration laws may seem a little harsh but they are simple. Don’t commit a crime, don’t lie on forms demonstrate that you will not become a “ public charge “ meaning you will not use public assistance and that you are not affiliated with or entertain criminals, or criminal activity. Ect….. They have a right to prove these changes are wrong and they can hire an attorney but they are NOT entitled to a public defender
In order for you not to say that they are just being snatched from the streets unjustly you have to know each individual case.
The media in this country on both sides is biased. No one can say for certain what is going on without personal knowledge and this is so disgusting and sad but it is a FACT
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@SatanBurger I understand what you're attempting to do, but these peoole don't have empathy. I'm not here to teach MAGA humanity. MAGA ain't got no humanity.
So I'll point out their hypocrisy instead, and shame them publicly, and be cruel to them.
Because what they do to my people is cruel, and here I invoke Lex Talionis. The cruelty after all is the point.
So I'll point out their hypocrisy instead, and shame them publicly, and be cruel to them.
Because what they do to my people is cruel, and here I invoke Lex Talionis. The cruelty after all is the point.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@basilfawlty89 You're right. I also don't think they even care what evidence there is. They likely don't watch the videos I post or check out anything. They just want to hate. They read all of two sentences that's why they keep repeating the same lies.
They seem real entitled, imagine having the audacity to complain about people wanting a little food from their home country as a mere comfort in a strange country that hates them for existing and thinking it actually inconveniences you as a person. I couldn't imagine that there's people walking around with that large of chip on their shoulder.
That's wild I'm sorry.
They seem real entitled, imagine having the audacity to complain about people wanting a little food from their home country as a mere comfort in a strange country that hates them for existing and thinking it actually inconveniences you as a person. I couldn't imagine that there's people walking around with that large of chip on their shoulder.
That's wild I'm sorry.
missyann · 56-60
@Baremine o I don’t think we should change the laws. We need more judges all along the border to make this “ due process everyone keeps b****ing about work quicker and maybe publish why they were apprehended their names date of hearing and the final outcome Somehow prove that the ‘“ illegals have had their due process hearings
Explain the laws we have written, so that they’re clear and people can understand them
Maybe explain what the words illegal and
Criminal activity actually means. Because a lot of the people DON’T know what they mean by Violation 8 US code 1325 says illegal entry, which is a misdemeanor a misdemeanor, is still a crime.
Explain the laws we have written, so that they’re clear and people can understand them
Maybe explain what the words illegal and
Criminal activity actually means. Because a lot of the people DON’T know what they mean by Violation 8 US code 1325 says illegal entry, which is a misdemeanor a misdemeanor, is still a crime.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Once this new funding hits ICE’s accounts, it will likely be spent as quickly as possible — with little oversight for how it’s doled out. The New York Times reported in April that ICE has already asked contractors for “proposals to provide new detention facilities, transportation, security guards, medical support and other administrative services worth as much as $45 billion over the next two years.”
It'll be like 2020 all over again . . nothing like a public "crisis" to keep the profit margins healthy.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Reason10 I am referring of course to the unregulated free-for-all in government contracts that ensued from the pandemic. When businesses suddenly reinvented themselves as specialists in health supplies and were allowed to make eye-watering profits out of re-selling substandard PPE to their governments.
I am a self-employed contractor and "hang out" with pension investors . . pensions are of course an important part of the welfare system. Had it not been for populist idiots like Trump, Johnson and Truss trashing investor confidence over the past five years, I would by now have attained my own investment objectives and probably be teaching maths to high school students.
I am a self-employed contractor and "hang out" with pension investors . . pensions are of course an important part of the welfare system. Had it not been for populist idiots like Trump, Johnson and Truss trashing investor confidence over the past five years, I would by now have attained my own investment objectives and probably be teaching maths to high school students.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl I am referring of course to the unregulated free-for-all in government contracts that ensued from the pandemic.
Give us a reliable link to that theory. Unregulated free for all? I don't think you even know what that means?
When businesses suddenly reinvented themselves as specialists in health supplies and were allowed to make eye-watering profits out of re-selling substandard PPE to their governments.
We'll need a reliable link to the idea that a business "suddenly reinvents itself..." To bring you up to speed with simple economics, DEMAND for the masks skyrocketed. So the price went up and a lot of them were sold. That accounts for mask companies making eye-watering profits.
Had it not been for populist idiots like Trump, Johnson and Truss trashing investor confidence over the past five years, I would by now have attained my own investment objectives and probably be teaching maths to high school students.
Apparently those at your welfare office have been smoking meth. The Stock Market is at record highs, thanks to President Trump.
Give us a reliable link to that theory. Unregulated free for all? I don't think you even know what that means?
When businesses suddenly reinvented themselves as specialists in health supplies and were allowed to make eye-watering profits out of re-selling substandard PPE to their governments.
We'll need a reliable link to the idea that a business "suddenly reinvents itself..." To bring you up to speed with simple economics, DEMAND for the masks skyrocketed. So the price went up and a lot of them were sold. That accounts for mask companies making eye-watering profits.
Had it not been for populist idiots like Trump, Johnson and Truss trashing investor confidence over the past five years, I would by now have attained my own investment objectives and probably be teaching maths to high school students.
Apparently those at your welfare office have been smoking meth. The Stock Market is at record highs, thanks to President Trump.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Reason10
https://natlawreview.com/article/ppe-fraud-rise-during-coronavirus-pandemic
The stock market is a poor indicator of general economic health, as Trump himself was at pains to point out in April when the S&P 500 closed 20% lower than at the start of 2025. Fluctuations in stock price indices are however an indication of general instability.
https://natlawreview.com/article/ppe-fraud-rise-during-coronavirus-pandemic
The stock market is a poor indicator of general economic health, as Trump himself was at pains to point out in April when the S&P 500 closed 20% lower than at the start of 2025. Fluctuations in stock price indices are however an indication of general instability.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
Pherick · 41-45, M
Pretty sure we as a country are fucked for the forseeable future. Its not hard to chart a path forward for us, looking back at history, and even from mostly current events, of a path that leads to the ruin of this nation.
Being 45 years old, I honestly wonder if this will still be the United States of America when I die in (hopefully) 40+ years.
Being 45 years old, I honestly wonder if this will still be the United States of America when I die in (hopefully) 40+ years.
BizSuitStacy · M
Republicans gave $45 billion to help ICE detain hundreds of thousands of immigrants
They aren't detaining "immigrants"...they are detaining, processing and deporting illegal aliens...criminals...all of them.
Nobody is above the law, right?
JSul3 · 70-79
@BizSuitStacy
What are the charges against each and every person?
Do you know?
I already know you don't care.
What are the charges against each and every person?
Do you know?
I already know you don't care.
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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Lots of deleted comments!!
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basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@missyann undocumented immigration is not a criminal case, it's a civil case. It's also in most cases a misdemeanour, not a felony.
It's despicable that you'd compare a guy coming to the US to pick fruit to feed his family with a child molestation.
You're minimizing and trivializing child abuse and should be ashamed.
It's despicable that you'd compare a guy coming to the US to pick fruit to feed his family with a child molestation.
You're minimizing and trivializing child abuse and should be ashamed.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann Never said they were the only people but maga are technically the only ones to make generalizations while committing the same acts you tell others abhor. Everyone is a hypocrite sometimes but you lot? You're on another level to the point it should be classified as delusional. Not everyone is like that but all maga seem to be unique in the fact that they're like that.
And you did say once that one bad apple spoils the bunch your words not mine lady. You have to live with your own choices whether you like it or not
And you did say once that one bad apple spoils the bunch your words not mine lady. You have to live with your own choices whether you like it or not
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@SatanBurger oh it's fine.
If one bad apple spouls the bunch, then it applies to all MAGA. After this is over amd the US version of the Nuremberg Trials happen, they'll all be treated as guilty who participated in this. And those who just supported it will end up like the Nazis old like Schwarzenegger mentioned - sad, tired, broken old men.
If one bad apple spouls the bunch, then it applies to all MAGA. After this is over amd the US version of the Nuremberg Trials happen, they'll all be treated as guilty who participated in this. And those who just supported it will end up like the Nazis old like Schwarzenegger mentioned - sad, tired, broken old men.
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JSul3 · 70-79
@BizSuitStacy
Examples:
A guy cutting the grass at a chain restaurant, who has three sons serving in the US Marines.....a woman who has been part of her community for decades, swept up from her front yard....folks in CA picking strawberries in the fields....students attending school...a guy from Canada that died in ICE custody....a woman from Iran about to be married...etc
Examples:
A guy cutting the grass at a chain restaurant, who has three sons serving in the US Marines.....a woman who has been part of her community for decades, swept up from her front yard....folks in CA picking strawberries in the fields....students attending school...a guy from Canada that died in ICE custody....a woman from Iran about to be married...etc
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