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@JSul3 I also support a number of organizations. What does that have to do with anything?
I support the rule of law and due process. My question is, how do you know that the immigrants in question have NOT ever received due process? Can you prove that they have never stood before an immigration judge? We the public have no idea how many have deportation orders from years ago and no one ensured that they were deported. They may have been working and living here for years but that doesn’t mean they don’t have pending deportation orders. Are you saying that they are entitled to a new hearing?
I know that there are some great responsible hardworking immigrants in our country but how do we determine (with the exception of known gang members and violent criminals ) who they are ? Everyone can find witnesses to say that they are “ good innocent and hardworking “. Employers don’t always know what they do outside of work .
Sometimes even family and don’t always know
immigrants who are here legally but haven’t received asylum or citizenship yet are expected to follow the law .Some Immigration laws may seem a little harsh but they are simple. Don’t commit a crime, don’t lie on forms demonstrate that you will not become a “ public charge “ meaning you will not use public assistance and that you are not affiliated with or entertain criminals, or criminal activity. Ect….. They have a right to prove these changes are wrong and they can hire an attorney but they are NOT entitled to a public defender
In order for you not to say that they are just being snatched from the streets unjustly you have to know each individual case.
The media in this country on both sides is biased. No one can say for certain what is going on without personal knowledge and this is so disgusting and sad but it is a FACT
I support the rule of law and due process. My question is, how do you know that the immigrants in question have NOT ever received due process? Can you prove that they have never stood before an immigration judge? We the public have no idea how many have deportation orders from years ago and no one ensured that they were deported. They may have been working and living here for years but that doesn’t mean they don’t have pending deportation orders. Are you saying that they are entitled to a new hearing?
I know that there are some great responsible hardworking immigrants in our country but how do we determine (with the exception of known gang members and violent criminals ) who they are ? Everyone can find witnesses to say that they are “ good innocent and hardworking “. Employers don’t always know what they do outside of work .
Sometimes even family and don’t always know
immigrants who are here legally but haven’t received asylum or citizenship yet are expected to follow the law .Some Immigration laws may seem a little harsh but they are simple. Don’t commit a crime, don’t lie on forms demonstrate that you will not become a “ public charge “ meaning you will not use public assistance and that you are not affiliated with or entertain criminals, or criminal activity. Ect….. They have a right to prove these changes are wrong and they can hire an attorney but they are NOT entitled to a public defender
In order for you not to say that they are just being snatched from the streets unjustly you have to know each individual case.
The media in this country on both sides is biased. No one can say for certain what is going on without personal knowledge and this is so disgusting and sad but it is a FACT
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SatanBurger forget it.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BizSuitStacy I get where you’re coming from, but legally, judges were doing their job under the Constitution to check executive actions that potentially violated immigration law or due process.
For the fact that Reagan appointed judges are democrat to you, means you're so far to the right it's crazy.
For the fact that Reagan appointed judges are democrat to you, means you're so far to the right it's crazy.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Once this new funding hits ICE’s accounts, it will likely be spent as quickly as possible — with little oversight for how it’s doled out. The New York Times reported in April that ICE has already asked contractors for “proposals to provide new detention facilities, transportation, security guards, medical support and other administrative services worth as much as $45 billion over the next two years.”
It'll be like 2020 all over again . . nothing like a public "crisis" to keep the profit margins healthy.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl To bring your horribly uneducated brain up to speed (and so far it sounds like you're barely up to speed with Florida kindergarteners), government spending does not involve a "profit margin." That is a concept for the private sector.
You have no economics knowledge or business knowledge whatsoever, and I'm pretty sure you don't know anyone who owns a business (probably because you only hang around welfare bums) so you have no idea what the term profit margin means.
You have no economics knowledge or business knowledge whatsoever, and I'm pretty sure you don't know anyone who owns a business (probably because you only hang around welfare bums) so you have no idea what the term profit margin means.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@missyann
Probably the same amount of homeless veterans and veterans with PTSD that MAGAs purportedly care about (in MAGAs case, when it's convenient).
I’m just wondering how many immigrants do you sponsor and personally feed clothe and take personal responsibility for their actions.
Probably the same amount of homeless veterans and veterans with PTSD that MAGAs purportedly care about (in MAGAs case, when it's convenient).
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Reason10 I am referring of course to the unregulated free-for-all in government contracts that ensued from the pandemic. When businesses suddenly reinvented themselves as specialists in health supplies and were allowed to make eye-watering profits out of re-selling substandard PPE to their governments.
I am a self-employed contractor and "hang out" with pension investors . . pensions are of course an important part of the welfare system. Had it not been for populist idiots like Trump, Johnson and Truss trashing investor confidence over the past five years, I would by now have attained my own investment objectives and probably be teaching maths to high school students.
I am a self-employed contractor and "hang out" with pension investors . . pensions are of course an important part of the welfare system. Had it not been for populist idiots like Trump, Johnson and Truss trashing investor confidence over the past five years, I would by now have attained my own investment objectives and probably be teaching maths to high school students.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
Pherick · 41-45, M
Pretty sure we as a country are fucked for the forseeable future. Its not hard to chart a path forward for us, looking back at history, and even from mostly current events, of a path that leads to the ruin of this nation.
Being 45 years old, I honestly wonder if this will still be the United States of America when I die in (hopefully) 40+ years.
Being 45 years old, I honestly wonder if this will still be the United States of America when I die in (hopefully) 40+ years.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Lots of deleted comments!!
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basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@missyann undocumented immigration is not a criminal case, it's a civil case. It's also in most cases a misdemeanour, not a felony.
It's despicable that you'd compare a guy coming to the US to pick fruit to feed his family with a child molestation.
You're minimizing and trivializing child abuse and should be ashamed.
It's despicable that you'd compare a guy coming to the US to pick fruit to feed his family with a child molestation.
You're minimizing and trivializing child abuse and should be ashamed.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann Never said they were the only people but maga are technically the only ones to make generalizations while committing the same acts you tell others abhor. Everyone is a hypocrite sometimes but you lot? You're on another level to the point it should be classified as delusional. Not everyone is like that but all maga seem to be unique in the fact that they're like that.
And you did say once that one bad apple spoils the bunch your words not mine lady. You have to live with your own choices whether you like it or not
And you did say once that one bad apple spoils the bunch your words not mine lady. You have to live with your own choices whether you like it or not
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@SatanBurger oh it's fine.
If one bad apple spouls the bunch, then it applies to all MAGA. After this is over amd the US version of the Nuremberg Trials happen, they'll all be treated as guilty who participated in this. And those who just supported it will end up like the Nazis old like Schwarzenegger mentioned - sad, tired, broken old men.
If one bad apple spouls the bunch, then it applies to all MAGA. After this is over amd the US version of the Nuremberg Trials happen, they'll all be treated as guilty who participated in this. And those who just supported it will end up like the Nazis old like Schwarzenegger mentioned - sad, tired, broken old men.
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JSul3 · 70-79
@BizSuitStacy
Examples:
A guy cutting the grass at a chain restaurant, who has three sons serving in the US Marines.....a woman who has been part of her community for decades, swept up from her front yard....folks in CA picking strawberries in the fields....students attending school...a guy from Canada that died in ICE custody....a woman from Iran about to be married...etc
Examples:
A guy cutting the grass at a chain restaurant, who has three sons serving in the US Marines.....a woman who has been part of her community for decades, swept up from her front yard....folks in CA picking strawberries in the fields....students attending school...a guy from Canada that died in ICE custody....a woman from Iran about to be married...etc
