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So Trump is now going to get his way and end birthright citizenship due to a 'stacked' Supreme court

Does that therefore mean that existing US citizens and permanent residents who are pregnant and for whatever reason happen to give birth outside the bounds of mainland USA, Alaska, or any other US-claimed territory, that the baby will be by default denied US citizenship despite the parents being US citizens or perm residents?

North American Korea is amping up.
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Almost as soon as the Supreme Court released its ruling limiting the ability of judges to block President Donald Trump's plan to end birthright citizenship, challengers brought new legal claims seeking the same result by a different means.



While the Supreme Court said judges cannot issue sweeping "universal injunctions" that can apply nationwide in many cases, it left open the option of plaintiffs seeking broad relief via class action lawsuits.



The American Civil Liberties Union filed such a lawsuit in New Hampshire on behalf of immigrants whose children may not obtain U.S. citizenship at birth if Trump's order was to go into effect.



In a separate case in Maryland, in which groups had previously obtained a nationwide injunction, lawyers filed an amended complaint seeking similar class-wide relief for anyone affected by Trump's plan within hours of the ruling authored by Justice Amy Coney Barrett.



Under Trump's plan, birthright citizenship would be limited to those who have at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident. That is at odds with the widely accepted understanding of the Constitution's 14th Amendment — that it grants citizenship to anyone born in the U.S., with a few minor exceptions.



Samuel Bray, a critic of nationwide injunctions at Notre Dame Law School whose work was cited in the ruling, said both the states and individual plaintiffs can still get broad injunctions against the birthright citizenship executive order, potentially even on a nationwide basis.



"I don't expect the executive order will ever go into effect," he added.
Does that therefore mean that existing US citizens and permanent residents who are pregnant and give birth outside the mainland or territories will have their child denied citizenship?

No, that's a separate legal issue.

Trump's Executive Order (and the litigation) focused on births occurring inside the United States, redefining who qualifies as “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

Births outside the U.S. (e.g., abroad) are governed by different statutes:

8 U.S.C. §1401(c–g) govern citizenship at birth to U.S. citizen parents abroad.

Children born abroad to U.S. citizens can typically claim citizenship through their parents if residency and physical presence conditions are met.

So unless the Trump administration issues a separate executive order or changes the law affecting foreign births, U.S. citizen or LPR parents who give birth abroad are not affected by EO 14160 or this ruling.

⚖ Bigger Implications

The decision reins in federal district court power and will make it harder to immediately block executive policies nationwide.

It means future challenges to EO 14160 must proceed piecemeal, plaintiff by plaintiff, or via certified class actions under Rule 23.

🗽 Closing Thought

So while this Supreme Court ruling empowers Trump to enforce his EO in cases not covered by the narrowed injunctions, birthright citizenship law still stands—for now. But the court's door remains open for a future merits ruling, which could fundamentally change the interpretation of the 14th Amendment. That’s when we would truly be looking at “North American Korea.”
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
This round was a test to see if the court could be relied on to toe the line for Project 2025. Wait for the real fun to start soon.. Some nice mid term altering goodies..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays I do get that. And frankly, the idea of a single President running the nation is a little archaic in the days of instant global communication. The leader of the House is in a much better position to know the state of the nation and the government. But skipping over that, this subdivides the nation and sends to back to interstate bickering, in my view quite deliberately. The international money can now pick off states individually by threatening local conditions.. America the nation is toast.. But it was nice while it lasted.. To be crystal clear, this isnt about right or left. This is about rich V the rest.. And the rich have already won .😷
@whowasthatmaskedman The rich have always run the show. Who do you think wrote the U.S. Constitution in the first place? The Constitution was written by the rich, for the rich.

The majority of the 55 delegates at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 were wealthy landowners, slaveholders, lawyers, merchants, or creditors. Many had personal economic interests that were directly affected by national policy. For example:

George Washington was one of the wealthiest men in America.

James Madison and Thomas Jefferson were slave-owning planters.

Alexander Hamilton was deeply tied to banking and commercial interests.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays Yes. Specifically Male proprty owners were allowed to vote..The difference is that it was always done behind closed doors in secret, skirting around the actual law.. But, largely thanks to Trump, its all out in public and needs to be officially made the law of the land or people will be thrown in jail (like Trump) for perverting the law and governmment for all these years..😷
justanothername · 56-60, M
It sure is and TACO has never been
So pleased with himself.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
If people had any guts they would insist that the orange traitor deport his three oldest children before deporting anyone else.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Diotrephes But how can you be sure they are actually his? I mean apart from Eric. Thats obviously him..😷
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@quesswhat I did that's how I found out his 'stacked' supreme court just gave him a legal victory of sorts and unblocks much of his controversial legislative changes that he wants to make.

 
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