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So, the images that Trump presented as evidence of White genocide in South Africa, presented to the South African President, before the world...

were taken in the DRC.

There's a shock.

Trump lied.
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Well regardless of a wrong pic, the violence against farmers is ongoing.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@TangledUpInBlue yeah and god-like trump is making a mockery of the violence by using incorrect evidence. Similar to using photoshopped photos as proof as to why people are being black bagged and sent to el salvador. But who cares about due process, the statist deity has decreed this as gospel and his followers just nod along like good followers
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@TangledUpInBlue "Well, despite the fact that we have no evidence, the thing we claim is actually happening, and we're just hoping you'll trust us to believe that with no evidence."
@gol979 I’m just glad people of the world are talking about South Africa. Hopefully the corruption, state looting and criminal thriving elements in our government will be exposed.
plankter979 · 51-55, M
@TangledUpInBlue are you nostalgic for apartheid days?
@plankter979 if you’re a farmer you’re 40 percent more likely to be murdered than any other citizen. The Afrikaners had land they fought for and made deals with the local tribes and sure there was some theft on all sides. That’s was how countries were colonised. Apartheid ended 30 years ago, what has the ANC done for the people?The government has vast tracts of land and farms they have left to be derelict without helping the black citizens to acquire housing. Have you seen how the white farmers have been tortured. Just up the road from me. A woman was raped to death, her husband and son tied up watching this, they then beat the dog to death and drowned the 14 year old in boiling water. Yes the entire country suffers from crime but this is torture and then you have political leaders with full stadiums chanting kill the boer slit the throat of whiteness. How is that ok?
@plankter979 fuck no. I was very much against apartheid and the first time I could vote was the first time that we had democratic elections. My parents were too. We were all excited and happy
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@TangledUpInBlue Okay. Say I believe you. How is the solution to this to bring the most racist white Afrikaners to the US while kicking out desperate people of other ethnicities who need a place to seek refuge? It's not like white European descended people don't already have plenty of places to go.

But also, you admit that your people "colonized" (read: stole) the land to begin with. This doesn't justify torture, rаре, or murder, but don't you think the land should belong to the people from whom it was taken?
@LordShadowfire well then shouldn’t all the land in America belong to native Americans and so on?
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@LordShadowfire also why do you say the most racist white afrikaners are there, what have they said that’s racist, I’m curious?
@LordShadowfire go look what the ANC has done in 30 years, it’s brought SA to its knees.
@LordShadowfire the solution would be for us not to have a corrupt looking government. That’s what. You know 60 percent of youth is unemployed? We have some of the highest murder and rape stats on the world? You know that all out systems are failing?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@TangledUpInBlue Well, one of the people the Trump administration brought to my country wrote an entire hate treatise on the Jewish people. I'm not well versed on the rest of them, but I'm sure you'll find similar stories there.

What it sounds like to me is that instead of moving folks to the US, someone needs to step in, replace the corrupt officials in your government with competent people who care, and start actively trying to solve the many problems in SA.
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@LordShadowfire
@TangledUpInBlue the video didn’t upload properly. Sorry.
iamthe99 · M
@TangledUpInBlue
the violence against farmers is ongoing
yes and more black farmers have been killed this year than white.

Fact
@iamthe99 how many has that been? Who is killing them? Who isn’t it reported in the media here? What’s your source?
iamthe99 · M
@TangledUpInBlue
The country has one of the highest murder rates in the world. There were 26,232 murders last year, according to South African Police Service (SAPS) figures.

Of these, 44 were killings of people within the farming community and of those, eight were of farmers.

These figures are not broken down by race in any public stats release that we've been able to locate - but they clearly don't provide evidence for the claims of "white genocide" made repeatedly by Trump.

In February, a South African judge dismissed the idea of a genocide as "clearly imagined" and "not real".

The Transvaal Agricultural Union (TAU), which represents farmers, compiles figures which offer an insight into the racial identity of the victims. The TAU relies on media reports, social media posts and reports from their members.

Their figures for last year show there were 23 white people killed in farm attacks, and nine black people. So far this year TAU has recorded three white people and four black people killed on South African farms
.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9vxve994ro

Yeah. Genocide.

And yes, the world is talking about South Africa. They're talking about President Ramaphosa coolly deflecting or dismissing Trump's increasingly hysterical inaccuracies about the supposed White genocide.

The world is also talking about how easy it is now to counteract Trump's blustering. He's already a laughing stock around the world, this just makes it funnier.

P.S. I lived in South Africa (Cape Town) for three years.
@iamthe99 good - then you should know the problems we face. I never said a word about genocide. You do know that the data is unreliable yes? Often the police don’t record farm attacks as farm attacks, it’s relied on independent data. When did you live in SA?
@iamthe99 here is some more reading

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/documents/mchunu-provided-with-details-of-farm-murders--afri
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@iamthe99 oh you would be shocked if you came here now. Just read the document please.
iamthe99 · M
@TangledUpInBlue I did.

And I never said murders weren't happening. It's appalling that these murders are happening.

But it is not a genocide against Whites🤣

The document even admits that the victims were not all White.

Farm murders are categorised according to the South African Police Service’s (SAPS) own definition of a farm attack as outlined in their Rural Safety Strategy (RSS). The RSS defines it as “acts of violence against persons residing on, working on or visiting farms and smallholdings; whether with intent to murder, rape, rob or inflict bodily harm. These include farm owners, farm workers and all other citizens of this country, irrespective of race, colour, creed, religion or sex. In addition to that, all acts of violence against the infrastructure and property in rural communities aimed at disrupting legal farming activities as a commercial concern are also included.”