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Adrift · 61-69, F
So they let you out.
softspokenman · M
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@Kypro Personal debt and national debt are not the same thing. You don't have the ability to just arbitrarily increase your income. Countries do.
Trickle down doesn't work but that is also not what this is about.
Don't forget public debt is also almost always private assets.
So small business loans, social safety net benefits, public and private projects. Those debts go away and those loans go away which means the private sector crashes too.
Politicians pretending it is as simply as your personal budget to scare people is a political tactic but not serious arguments.
Trickle down doesn't work but that is also not what this is about.
Don't forget public debt is also almost always private assets.
So small business loans, social safety net benefits, public and private projects. Those debts go away and those loans go away which means the private sector crashes too.
Politicians pretending it is as simply as your personal budget to scare people is a political tactic but not serious arguments.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@Kypro Tax cuts and debt are different conversations. They only coincide as tax cuts increase debt. But that is ultimately small potatoes.
The debt ceiling is the dumbest completely artificial and arbitrary gimmick any nation has ever invented.
Raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with cuts.
The debt ceiling only impacts money the US government has already put on the credit card so to speak.
The debt ceiling has only become an issue since the right figured out with the Tea Party that they can throw a tantrum and threaten a default if they don't get their way.
Not raising the debt ceiling is the equivalent of you just randomly deciding not to pay last month's credit card charges because you don't feel like it.
This is not really a serious risk because the party that keeps threatening a default with the debt ceiling rule the government currently and are not going to create a totally artificial default on their watch for kicks.
The debt ceiling is the dumbest completely artificial and arbitrary gimmick any nation has ever invented.
Raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with cuts.
The debt ceiling only impacts money the US government has already put on the credit card so to speak.
The debt ceiling has only become an issue since the right figured out with the Tea Party that they can throw a tantrum and threaten a default if they don't get their way.
Not raising the debt ceiling is the equivalent of you just randomly deciding not to pay last month's credit card charges because you don't feel like it.
This is not really a serious risk because the party that keeps threatening a default with the debt ceiling rule the government currently and are not going to create a totally artificial default on their watch for kicks.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@soar2newhighs Doing something doesn't magically mean it is productive. All he has accomplished is causing chaos and destroying American trade and relations with the entire globe.
A crime spree also qualifies as "getting things done". Doesn't make it a good thing.
A crime spree also qualifies as "getting things done". Doesn't make it a good thing.
independentone · M
@soar2newhighs Yeah, he is getting more done, if you consider crashing the economy and illegally rounding up brown people an accomplishment.
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