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[Politics] Should states create their own foreign policies regarding trade with other countries?

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
California Governor Gavin Newsom said he has directed his administration to "look at new opportunities to expand trade" as he tries to steer his state around President Donald Trump's sprawling import tariffs.

Why It Matters

California, the world's fifth-largest economy, plays a crucial role in driving U.S. economic growth. As the largest importer and second-largest exporter among U.S. states, with over $675 billion in two-way trade, it holds significant economic influence. Therefore, Trump's tariffs could have a major impact, potentially increasing costs for California businesses, disrupting global supply chains, and putting pressure on vital industries within the state.

What To Know

In a post on X, Newsom addressed the U.S.'s global trading partners, writing "California is here and ready to talk."

It comes after a Fox News report revealed that Newsom is directing his state to pursue "strategic" relationships with countries announcing retaliatory tariffs against the U.S., urging them to exclude California-made products from those taxes.

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In response, White House spokesperson Kush Desai told Fox News: "Gavin Newsom should focus on out-of-control homelessness, crime, regulations, and unaffordability in California instead of trying his hand at international dealmaking."

On Wednesday, the White House imposed a 10 percent baseline tariff on all imports, including those from U.S. allies and non-economically active regions, along with higher rates for countries with large trade surpluses against the U.S. on Wednesday.

The tariffs include a 34 percent tax on imports from China, a 20 percent tax on imports from the European Union, 25 percent on South Korea, 24 percent on Japan and 32 percent on Taiwan. Mexico and Canada, from which most U.S. produce imports come, are exempt from Trump's latest tariffs, but the 25 percent tariffs that Trump levied on both countries last month will remain intact.

Trump's announcement sent the markets into turmoil on Thursday, with Wall Street recording its worst day since 2020, when Covid-19 was in full swing. Meanwhile, China hit back with a 34 percent retaliatory tariff on Friday, in the first signs of an all-out trade war that could cripple imports and exports. Other nations are now also mulling over retaliatory tariffs.

Amid the turmoil, the Newsom administration is concerned that retaliatory tariffs could hit California hard, with major impacts on agriculture, manufacturing, and trade

California, not being its own country, can't be directly targeted in international trade retaliation. However, countries could choose to retaliate against Trump's tariffs by targeting goods commonly produced in states other than California—like soybeans or pork—instead of products like California wine or walnuts, Daniel Sumner, an agricultural and resource economics professor at UC Davis, told Newsweek.

According to Fox News, Newsom administration officials are particularly concerned that California's almond industry, a key agricultural exporter, could lose billions of dollars, as countries like China, India, and the European Union impose retaliatory tariffs.

Almond exports were valued at $4.7 billion in 2022, supporting 110,000 jobs and contributing $9.2 billion to California's GDP. With 76 percent of the world's almonds grown in California—and most exported—trade restrictions could cost the industry up to $875 million, according to a UC Davis study.

Other food prices may also rise as a result of the tariffs. Ninety percent of avocados consumed in the U.S. come from Mexico, so restrictions could drive up prices and reduce consumption. Similarly, California milk prices could increase if tariffs make canola from Canada more expensive, forcing farmers to switch to pricier alternatives.

The wine and alcohol industries face rising costs as well. Tariffs on European wines may lead California winemakers to hike prices, while reliance on imported materials like corks, glass, and capsules from Mexico and Canada could further push prices upward.

Beyond agriculture, the state's manufacturing sector—especially in Los Angeles—is at risk. The region employed over 313,000 manufacturing workers last year and plays a central role in California's $1 trillion county economy. Economist Jock O'Connell warned that reduced imports and exports could lead to fewer jobs at ports and throughout supply chains, especially in the Inland Empire.

In 2023, California exported nearly $160 billion in manufactured goods, led by $47.9 billion in computer and electronic products, along with $18.4 billion in machinery and $16.2 billion in chemicals. These sectors could also face retaliatory tariffs from trade partners, further threatening the state's economy.

State officials also expressed concern that retaliatory tariffs will cause significant disruptions to supply chains between California and Baja, arguing that taxing goods each time they cross the border will raise final product prices, ultimately impacting Californians.

Meanwhile, a Newsom official also told Fox News that the new Trump tariffs will hinder access to essential supplies, like construction materials, needed to rebuild after the Los Angeles wildfires. The U.S. currently imposes a 14 percent duty on Canadian lumber, with the rate possibly rising to nearly 27 percent this year.

But Sumner is doubtful that Newsom's directive will go anywhere toward helping the state.

"The standard theory about retaliation lists is to hurt the offending government politically. That would already suggest going after products from places that supported President Trump. Back when the Democrats had power it was natural to hit California wine because Speaker Pelosi and other Californians had power. That is much less true now," he told Newsweek. "Overall, it is hard to see much coming from this."

Analysis by the Yale Budget Lab found that the Trump Administration's announced tariffs are expected to drive up overall inflation by 2.3 percent this year alone. This includes a projected 2.8 percent increase in food prices and an 8.4 percent jump in automotive prices—resulting in an estimated $3,800 hit to the average American household.

What People Are Saying

Gavin Newsom said in video posted to X: "Donald Trump's tariffs do not represent all Americans, and on behalf of 40 million Americans that live in the great state of California , the tentpole of the US economy, 14% of US GDP, the fifth largest economy in the world, the dominant manufacturing state in America. Our state of mind is around supporting stable trading relationships around the globe. And that's why today I've directed my administration to look at new opportunities to expand trade and to remind our trading partners around the globe that California remains a stable partner."

In a press release, he added:

"California leads the nation as the #1 state for agriculture and manufacturing — and it's our workers, families, and farmers who stand to lose the most from this Trump tax hike and trade war. To our international partners: As the fifth largest economy in the world, the Golden State will remain a steady, reliable partner for generations to come, no matter the turbulence coming out of Washington. California is not Washington, D.C."

Daniel Sumner, an agricultural and resource economics professor at UC Davis, told Newsweek: "California is not a separate country so there would not be California as a country of origin. However, an importer could retaliate against specific goods that tend to come from states other than California. For example, Japan could avoid listing wine, walnuts, or tomato paste, but instead make a point of going after soybeans and pork instead. For manufactured goods, it is harder to tell if it is a California product or has substantial content.

"The standard theory about retaliation lists is to hurt the offending government politically. That would already suggest going after products from places that supported President Trump. Back when the Democrats had power it was natural to hit California wine because Speaker Pelosi and other Californians had power. That is much less true now.

"The other response to Governor Newsome may well be from federal agencies that decide to close California offices or cancel programs that benefit California. That may have a bigger economic impact than the import policy responses.

"Overall, it is hard to see much coming from this."

Donald Trump said on Thursday:

"The markets are going to boom. The stock is going to boom, the country is going to boom, and the rest of the world wants to see is there any way they can make a deal.

"This is one of the most important days, in my opinion, in American history. It's our declaration of economic independence. For years, hardworking American citizens were forced to sit on the sidelines as other nations got rich and powerful, much of it at our expense," Trump said. "But now it's our turn to prosper, and in so doing, use trillions and trillions of dollars to reduce our taxes and pay down our national debt, and it'll all happen very quickly."
What Happens Next

Trump's tariffs are set to go into effect between April 5 and April 9. The administration expects the new rates to remain in place until the U.S. narrows a $1.2 trillion trade imbalance recorded last year.


Please keep in mind this might be considered a States rights issue! What helps one side can help the other side in many ways.







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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M Pinned Comment
Note: I do moderate my own posts to any that troll them.

Nor do I encourage trolling of trolls!

Captain · 61-69, M
I like you're idea biut its just not practical is it and (Im not a yank so I wouldn't know but as alimiey I would guess) "illegal". If the US split into 50 odd trading blocks that would be no better for the US or the world than whats happening now. The only thing that solves this problem is if Trump and Vance repent. Maybe they'll get some big concessions and be able to turn around and say "ha ha only jesting , got what we want, its back to normal now guys) but it won't be will it. the confidence of the world has been shattered.
Captain · 61-69, M
@Captain Sorry to quote Aliens but it seems a good parallel for the jeopardy we are in.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Captain I don't even remember the plot to aliens anymore. 🤣
Captain · 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer You shoud stay in and watch videos more (LOL)
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Most states and cities have some sort of strategic planning department or economic development department that shops for businesses, both domestic and foreign, to locate in their states. Ideally, they have land use policies, zoning laws, and they even maintain inventories of what's available in their communities ready to show interested shoppers, and are ready to lay out tax incentives. to attract the best blend for their communities. While they may not be able to directly and immediately change such things as federal tariffs or import/export laws they do have the flexibility to offset the cost with real estate tax abatements, financing assistance, direct grants, and other incentives that may in some cases be more significant than the tariff. Some states have a Renaissance Zone Authority for revitalizing decaying areas and cities and states will roll out the checkbooks to rejeuvinate a shuttered factory site or other decaying or economically dead spot.

Also, city, county and state governments employ lobbyist to represent their interest with the state and federal government, that includes representing their economic interest recommend changes to import and tariff laws.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Heartlander oh EVs wouldn't likely be the market for that lithium. The real reason why Musk left was because of the environmental protection laws.

That lithium would likely be used for the tiny batteries. Like in cellphones and such. Less likely to explode and with a bigger profit margin overall.

Musk didn't want to deal with how to store the big Auto type batteries. They need to be specially stored by California EPA so if they explode they won't set off a chain reaction.

Now we all know that Musk source of batteries explode! It doesn't take much at all to set them off if you have been following the Tesla news at all.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@DeWayfarer understand. My awareness of goo old lead batteries exploding is enough to make me fear being close to any battery. I saw one explode in a parking lot and it darn near blew the hood off the car.

My SIL (son in law) had an EV smart car for commuting, which I thought was a smart idea and I'd intended to do likewise since I'm old and rarely stray more than 15 miles from home, but his experience was negative and exchanged it for a tiny high mph gas guzzler.

It's been years since I crossed any California border, my memory is of agricultural check points. Do they stop everyone?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Heartlander I don't know. It's been over a decade since I was near one. I live at least 60 miles in any direction of one. And I travel about as much as you do.
GerOttman · 61-69, M
I believe that international trade is among the "few and defined" powers granted the federal government in the constitution. I don't have the chapter and verse handy, feel free to review on your own.
GerOttman · 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer I guess that's as good a definition of "Supreme" as you're going to get!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@GerOttman listen they don't always rule in favor of Trump either! 🤷🏻‍♂

They make their own precedence.
GerOttman · 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer I'm aware, thanks.
eMortal · M
People from all over the country prefer to travel all the way California to be homeless!
The main reason is weather.
Some come here from red states just to take advantage of social programs. Maybe California should start sending them back.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@eMortal suggest you read and understand: The new Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “

Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,


I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

It's at the bottom of the statue of Liberty!
in10RjFox · M
Yes. In fact every state can become it's own micro nation and have a currency with USD as central currency, so trade with each other State too is defined well.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox I read it for the third time and found it irrelevant!

Apply your statement to the 10th amendment!

Correction the tenth amendment!
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I mean if you are going to go in that direction doesn't that basically render the country of the USA irrelevant if everyone is just going to behave like 50 separate states? At that point you just have the Yankee version of the EU.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow it's what the Republicans are pushing for with states rights. They brought this on themselves with the abortion issue.
meJess · F
the last time the states of the union were looking to go their own way on taxation and other considerations the disagreement became rather aggressive
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@meJess it did, didn't it.

Yet that whole process took decades.

This is only the beginning.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@meJess :) States with booming economies want to go their own way; states deep in debt and a sluggish economy would prefer to share the misery.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Heartlander I sort of mention that, by stating that California is the world 5th largest economy below.
The party of democracy wants to succeed the second they’re voted out..

This is funny to me..

Yay democracy
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout this is only taking advantage of Republic governments!

The Republicans don't want democracy! So the alternative is to take advantage of the Republic!

They already tore democracy apart by adhering to the 10th amendment!

Remove the tenth amendment we have a democracy once again!
Canicu69 · 70-79, M
Absolutely not. Can you imagine having !50 different agreements with Mexico or Canada. Or better yet China.
Makes no sense and opens the door to corruption
Canicu69 · 70-79, M
@DeWayfarer you think what you want. It is against the law. California just announced they wouldn’t charge tariff's. It is against the law. Final final. Good night
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Canicu69 oh it's going to change believe it.

Because Trump will ruin the 5th largest economy of the world otherwise!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Canicu69 this was Friday!

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/04/newsom-to-fight-back-on-trump-tariffs-asking-countries-to-spare-california-retaliation-00272133

By Christine Mui

04/04/2025 11:27 AM EDT

Updated: 04/04/2025 11:48 AM EDT

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said he will “fight back” against President Donald Trump’s latest tariffs on Friday, instructing the state to forge “strategic” alliances with countries eyeing retaliatory measures on U.S. goods — and to press hard for California-made products to be spared.

They don't work on weekends!

 
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